June Schedules
05-24-2022, 05:13 AM
#141
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Thank you! Someone who gets it. I was starting to feel like a crazy person. 11,500 out of 13,800 is 83%. The people complaining about their trips are NB. Only 17% of pilots are forced to do NB, everyone else is doing it by choice (with the exception of seat locks which is only tempo). If every single complaint on here is coming from the bottom 17% then I am in the wrong but I am willing to bet that is not the case.
And, you should feel crazy, did you see how many exclamation points you’ve been using?
05-24-2022, 05:29 AM
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Lol big surprise FMF and Trip are all backpack on buddy buddy fartin rainbows over here.
05-24-2022, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by igotgummed
Lol big surprise FMF and Trip are all backpack on buddy buddy fartin rainbows over here.
05-24-2022, 05:36 AM
#144
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
It’s fine to be positive, but maybe you shouldn’t be as quick to brush off the negative changes made by the company as pilots just being negative. You think the optimization and creative ways to misuse the contract have reached their limit? They’ll keep going further, so without pushback and stronger contract language the suck will only strengthen.
And, you should feel crazy, did you see how many exclamation points you’ve been using?
And, you should feel crazy, did you see how many exclamation points you’ve been using?
ATL717
ATL and NYC 320(horrendous commutability)
ATL 73N lower end
ATL7ER lower end
These all seem to have a multitude of long duty days, 4+ legs and short overnights. The other day I say an ER trip that had 3 legs after a transcon. SFO-ATL-JAX-ATL-JAX. Wowzers. At least you had 17 hrs in JAX to recover
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05-24-2022, 05:41 AM
#145
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Nobody is brushing off the the schedules. The schedules on certain fleets and bases are really bad. Off the top of my head:
ATL717
ATL and NYC 320(horrendous commutability)
ATL 73N lower end
ATL7ER lower end
These all seem to have a multitude of long duty days, 4+ legs and short overnights. The other day I say an ER trip that had 3 legs after a transcon. SFO-ATL-JAX-ATL-JAX. Wowzers. At least you had 17 hrs in JAX to recover
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ATL717
ATL and NYC 320(horrendous commutability)
ATL 73N lower end
ATL7ER lower end
These all seem to have a multitude of long duty days, 4+ legs and short overnights. The other day I say an ER trip that had 3 legs after a transcon. SFO-ATL-JAX-ATL-JAX. Wowzers. At least you had 17 hrs in JAX to recover
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05-24-2022, 06:08 AM
#146
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Originally Posted by blue vortex
Not seeing any 4 leg days for 737/320/220 for June in any base. Looks like days are shorter too. Overall seems like June has improved, maybe not great but better.
05-24-2022, 06:35 AM
#147
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Thank you! Someone who gets it. I was starting to feel like a crazy person. 11,500 out of 13,800 is 83%. The people complaining about their trips are NB. Only 17% of pilots are forced to do NB, everyone else is doing it by choice (with the exception of seat locks which is only tempo). If every single complaint on here is coming from the bottom 17% then I am in the wrong but I am willing to bet that is not the case.
NB flying has deteriorated SIGNIFICANTLY in the last decade with the exception of 737s in NYC because of all the Caribbean turns and transcons. Commutability, legs per day, hours per day, all of it are way higher than they were in 2015. When I first started flying a NB aircraft, a bad trip was one leg to SFO. Long layover. Redeye back. Having a sub 12 hour layover was rare. Now, trips fill pages of the bid packet with 11ish hour layovers.
Just because you aren't upset with your flying doesn't mean most of us who've been flying NBs for the last decade haven't seen trip quality deteriorate.
05-24-2022, 06:35 AM
#148
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Agreed. June trips are significantly better in my base... We'll see how long it lasts though.
05-24-2022, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Go Cards go
What you actually end up flying will be the real measure. Since my FOs get rerouted almost every trip I’m guessing their trips look much different than mine do.
05-24-2022, 07:32 AM
#150
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Originally Posted by blue vortex
Not seeing any 4 leg days for 737/320/220 for June in any base. Looks like days are shorter too. Overall seems like June has improved, maybe not great but better.
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