Let's not let facts get in the way of your emotions. It is apparent you will go to your grave "butt-hurt" ....I am totally fine with that.

Where do you even come up with "handing out halos" and such nonsense? Some say a good defense is a good offense....in this case ...quit digging.

A valuable lesson to be learned from that SLI arbitration 15 years ago is....Don't overreach. The results may not be what you want. True in SLI mergers, as well as contract negotiations (immediate mediator) and quite possibly strikes.

But you have all the answers...bully for you!

 

FFS, let the North vs South pi$$ing contest DIE already. Everyone complains about having to listen to politics from other pilots, but remembering back to when I was new, THIS is ALL I heard about is who got screwed worse, mostly from former North. Please, stop.

 

+1. Filler

 

Your narrative is what gets you through your day, even though, deep down, you know your work negatively affected some
of your fellow pilots. Benefited others. Karma has its way.

Regardless, I’m glad we merged and appreciate the MEC’s work, regardless of you think your way is so much better.

 

Agreed, this is mostly to needle Buck. I don’t bring it up when flying unless asked. There’s probably a reason it’s “mostly former North” unfortunately. It took a decade for my fDal buds to finally admit “yeah, I made out pretty well in hind sight”.

I’m betting this was not “all you heard when you were new” though. Didn’t they talk about turboprops, Air Wisconsin, reduced rest layovers?

 

Red Book, Green Book , Blue Book , North , west , East and South . Sounds like a good Cat in the hat book 😂😂.

 

I think you're living in a dreamland. congress can intervene, you can have a PEB, or just more cooling off periods (the railroads just had a Presidential Emergency Board in June).

i'm an allegiant pilot and we are in the midst of negotiations like everybody else. we want major gains, and an eventual strike is what is being spread. the difference is that a I can imagine a world where a President allowed allegiant pilots to strike (instead of calling a PEB); there is no way any President would allow delta pilots to strike - and your management likely knows that.

even as a niche airline, its unlikely that we at allegiant will ever be able to strike given all the obstacles littered throughout the RLA and the politics involved, and we are just flying families to their vacations a couple days a week.

Entire economies rely on a carrier like Delta to operate and I just can't fathom a world where a President, even one like Bernie or AOC, would allow pilots to strike because they are only get 5 weeks of paid vacation instead of 6; or because we only top out at $300k/year instead of $350k; or because we only get 17% dc instead of 20%. Think about the politics of that for a President? Maybe for FAs, mechanics, groundcrews, etc. but for pilots? No politician would take that political liability no matter how much ALPA lobbies.

Delta grounding 90% of its flights for even a week would probably result in at least a billion lost economic activity due to a pilot strike and then the President would have to explain why did not prevent that from happening.

The RLA is a different animal for the majors. Its a huge obstacle for us small airlines. Its a damn that cannot be breached for delta pilots.

 

Mostly north because I was based up north.

 

Thats a lot of economic damage that we could inflict. Roger Toussant brought NYC to a halt in 2005 or 2006 with an illegal MTA
strike. You don’t need to be allowed to go on strike, you just have to be prepared to pay for it. He spent time in jail but he allowed himself to be a martyr.

NATCO did it too. But the president can’t fire us.

In fact, there is nothing illegal about boldly planning and preparing for an illegal strike and telecasting it. Tell the world we’re doing it no matter what.

Just make sure you save plenty.

 

Pay rates are not the holy grail. RETIREMENT IS. If you live to 95 at 140k per year FedEx and UPS ) do the math. No pay increase will get you there. Pilots are SOOO short sighted.