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Old 09-23-2022, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PSpuza View Post
https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...s-summer-2023/

First set of new route adds for Summer 23.
Nice to see us returning to Europe from LAX and all the other pre covid expansion that was put on hold. Now if there are indeed plans for A350-1000's Im most curious where they plan to deploy them; new or existing routes???
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:38 AM
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I don’t think the NMA will be available in time to replace the 76. It may be the A330 simply because that’s the only plane for sale. Something the size of the NMA with current engine technology, wouldn’t meet emission standards.
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Pilots are going to Love the new cockpit with the bulkhead moved forward and main jumpseat removed and 2 flip down flight attendant style jumpseats. To get the extra width they are reducing sidewall thickness but claim newer insulation will keep people warm on 16 hour flights.
The JS is only for 1 hour out of 15. Crew rest is what I'm worried about. It's already an "optimized" version of the 777.
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
What exactly is the 350ULR? The only ULR variant I know of is being operated by Singapore Airlines (Air Lines? &#128513 and I just don't see Delta operating a 309 seat airplane in a 161 seat configuration (as well as deactivating the forward cargo compartment which Singapore also did in order to fly direct to/from the US). The -1000 would be nice and gets us a bit of a range bump.
What is gained by deactivating the forward cargo compartment?
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What is gained by deactivating the forward cargo compartment?
It has to do with wing bending moments. All the extra fuel is in the center tank which increases bending moments. They had to get weight out of the fuselage to reduce that effect. They eliminate all the cargo loading structure equipment.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
It has to do with wing bending moments. All the extra fuel is in the center tank which increases bending moments. They had to get weight out of the fuselage to reduce that effect. They eliminate all the cargo loading structure equipment.
Huh, interesting.

Can’t see much use of a ULR here. My guess would be -1000 if we’re talking new variants. Think between our hubs we could make those extra seats work, especially a higher first class variant for places like LHR, HND, and so on.

Wouldn’t mind seeing top ups for 339s as well. Boeing has basically said even development of the NMA is shelved for a few years now.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
It has to do with wing bending moments. All the extra fuel is in the center tank which increases bending moments. They had to get weight out of the fuselage to reduce that effect. They eliminate all the cargo loading structure equipment.
As a guy who took a lot of engineering, I’m not following your statics. Got a link?
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As a guy who took a lot of engineering, I’m not following your statics. Got a link?
I tried finding some info, but all were behind a paywall on various industry sites.

Another idea for long term planning, wonder if we’ve looked at the E2-190? Good 100 seat replacement for the 717, it’s a bit narrower and lighter than the 221 so probably lower block hour costs, and 2 FAs. Would also be a good replacement for the regionals as they shrink. It hasn’t sold tremendously, so we could perhaps get Embraer’s interest with an order. I’ve heard people say we should take over the CRJ-9/E-175 flying, but with no scope limits to content with at mainline, might as well fly a bigger jet within limits.
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I tried finding some info, but all were behind a paywall on various industry sites.

Another idea for long term planning, wonder if we’ve looked at the E2-190? Good 100 seat replacement for the 717, it’s a bit narrower and lighter than the 221 so probably lower block hour costs, and 2 FAs. Would also be a good replacement for the regionals as they shrink. It hasn’t sold tremendously, so we could perhaps get Embraer’s interest with an order. I’ve heard people say we should take over the CRJ-9/E-175 flying, but with no scope limits to content with at mainline, might as well fly a bigger jet within limits.

I don’t think they really want to replace the 717. I also don’t think they will purchase any more A220-100s. Will continue to see the airline upgage the fleet.
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I don’t think they really want to replace the 717. I also don’t think they will purchase any more A220-100s. Will continue to see the airline upgage the fleet.
I tend to agree, but who knows by 2025 onwards. Is the ~160 size the smallest we will fly? If regionals continue to shrink will we reconsider smaller jets? I think we’d like the 220-500. Perfect replacement for the 319/320. Would seat around 150.

I fully understand the upgauging mindset, but there does need to be a balance with frequency. For the right price, the E2-190 could offset regional flying, and the extra 20-30 seats would help make up the cost. I don’t buy cost as much these days anyways. If regionals are paying their captains 150-200+ an hour, surely we can do something reasonable to fly a larger “RJ” here? You also eliminate the cost overhead of paying a contract carrier.

Again, just ideas here, more just Sunday morning musings over my pancakes.
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