A350-1000 and other Fleet News
09-26-2022, 05:33 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They are so heavy most of the fuel savings on short flights is offset by the weight gain. One of the reasons the A330-900 has been such a flop is it actually burns more gas on legs under 1000 miles with the heavy triple spool RR engines than the standard A330-300.
09-26-2022, 05:44 AM
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I don’t think the 339 is a “flop” it just doesn’t hit its stride for burn until the longer legs. I wonder if we end up putting the D1 suites in the 332/333. Those jets will be more than enough for most of the east coast-Europe stuff that doesn’t need high MTOW.
09-26-2022, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
This is the first I’ve heard that the 330-900 has been a flop. How often are we flying them under 1,000 miles?
https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a330neo-program-loses-20-percent-of-outstanding-orders/
09-26-2022, 06:17 AM
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That’s fine, we made a killing with the unwanted MD-90 and 717. 330neo shouldn’t be as much of an issue with long term MX, considering it’s mostly the regular 330. I believe we can overhaul the T7000 in house, so that alleviates rhe #1 issue with the MD-90.
Boeing’s 777X has seen similarly sluggish sales, not many places are being widebodies en masse right now.
Boeing’s 777X has seen similarly sluggish sales, not many places are being widebodies en masse right now.
09-26-2022, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They are so heavy most of the fuel savings on short flights is offset by the weight gain. One of the reasons the A330-900 has been such a flop is it actually burns more gas on legs under 1000 miles with the heavy triple spool RR engines than the standard A330-300.
GTFs were break even on LGA-BOS legs back in the early R&D days.
(I was an engineer at Pratt & Whitney Commercial Engines pre-Navy and worked on the early design in the mid 90s. Yes, they have been in work that long)
09-26-2022, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
That’s fine, we made a killing with the unwanted MD-90 and 717. 330neo shouldn’t be as much of an issue with long term MX, considering it’s mostly the regular 330. I believe we can overhaul the T7000 in house, so that alleviates rhe #1 issue with the MD-90.
Boeing’s 777X has seen similarly sluggish sales, not many places are being widebodies en masse right now.
Boeing’s 777X has seen similarly sluggish sales, not many places are being widebodies en masse right now.
09-26-2022, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
but will it be a 717 or an MD11?
09-26-2022, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
That’s fine, we made a killing with the unwanted MD-90 and 717. 330neo shouldn’t be as much of an issue with long term MX, considering it’s mostly the regular 330. I believe we can overhaul the T7000 in house, so that alleviates rhe #1 issue with the MD-90.
Boeing’s 777X has seen similarly sluggish sales, not many places are being widebodies en masse right now.
Boeing’s 777X has seen similarly sluggish sales, not many places are being widebodies en masse right now.
09-26-2022, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I’m interested in how the 717 fleet is going back, didn’t we part some completely out never to return?
Full disclosure, I didn’t watch it, yet.
BRING ON MORE WIDE BODIES!
Full disclosure, I didn’t watch it, yet.
BRING ON MORE WIDE BODIES!
Quantas recently parked their 20 71’s. I’ve been told they have a different engine? Also heard a startup in Miami has bought them.
09-26-2022, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
There are 20 717’s sitting in San Bernardino. 4 have been canabalized, 16 flyable. This is from a mechanic friend of mine that has actually seen them.
Quantas recently parked their 20 71’s. I’ve been told they have a different engine? Also heard a startup in Miami has bought them.
Quantas recently parked their 20 71’s. I’ve been told they have a different engine? Also heard a startup in Miami has bought them.
20 717s coming back would be a rather staunch bit of growth next year, on top of the 220/321 deliveries and used 737s hitting the line, plus new 339s and used 359s.
