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Old 11-02-2022 | 07:48 PM
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That’s how it was done when I was at Alaska. Commuters going to and from work had non-rev priority above everyone. I don’t commute anymore, but I sure appreciated it and would support it here at Delta.
Sounds like a great idea . Maybe during major Holidays allow working crew to just list positive space to and from work . For example from November 1st to January 7th and times like spring break months etc, and non holidays if you are commuting to and from work one would be an S1 based on seniority. It just seems weird that they would sunset it in October 31st when we’ve had it the past 2 years . Seems like a strange random date . How about after the holidays ?
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Old 11-02-2022 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
Sounds like a great idea . Maybe during major Holidays allow working crew to just list positive space to and from work . For example from November 1st to January 7th and times like spring break months etc, and non holidays if you are commuting to and from work one would be an S1 based on seniority. It just seems weird that they would sunset it in October 31st when we’ve had it the past 2 years . Seems like a strange random date . How about after the holidays ?
It was extended 2 times due to Cares Act 2 and 3. If Cares Act3 wouldn’t happened, then it would’ve sunset in April 30 of this year.

It hasn’t been 2 years because the company wanted, it was one of “we didn’t think the government would do that” kind of thing.
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Old 11-02-2022 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
Sounds like a great idea . Maybe during major Holidays allow working crew to just list positive space to and from work . For example from November 1st to January 7th and times like spring break months etc, and non holidays if you are commuting to and from work one would be an S1 based on seniority. It just seems weird that they would sunset it in October 31st when we’ve had it the past 2 years . Seems like a strange random date . How about after the holidays ?
There’s nothing random about the date. It was tied to the agreement that Alpa made whenever the company took PPP money it would extend the PSC so many months. 6 or something like that. So it was supposed to expire end of April 2022. Then took more money… something like that.
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Old 11-02-2022 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
Sounds like a great idea . Maybe during major Holidays allow working crew to just list positive space to and from work . For example from November 1st to January 7th and times like spring break months etc, and non holidays if you are commuting to and from work one would be an S1 based on seniority. It just seems weird that they would sunset it in October 31st when we’ve had it the past 2 years . Seems like a strange random date . How about after the holidays ?
The sunset date was set from when the government cheese ran out/was given to them to keep everyone on property in 2019 on the company payroll instead of on unemployment. Which delta got thousands to take leave apply for government unemployment and they (delta) still got to keep the government payroll money that should have been for the employee. Super shady, but lots of stuff was/still is super shady all in the name of covid... As to why they let is expire instead of just pushing it through the new year. Well that's just how much they think of you the front line employee. As long as they are getting their one time payment adjustments/stock option for NPS/ect... they don't care about you or I....
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Old 11-02-2022 | 10:04 PM
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JB didn’t want to risk it and extended theirs till January. Problem is we are not a proactive airline, we are reactive. So nothing will be done until after the meltdown occurs and causes havoc to tens of thousands of people…like the holidays. It will be hard to pin point it to PSC or not. But either way, nothing is going to happen in terms of us seeing any changes until the meltdowns.

plus it’s been a Tuesday and Wednesday and people are asking about results. Let’s see a couple weekends go by or thanksgiving then draw some conclusions. Comical people think a Tuesday is evidence they were right about PSC being a nothing burger.

Oh and BTW they are also blocking the jumpseat on OE flights so beware. Been discussed numerous times on FB if you didn’t see.
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Old 11-03-2022 | 01:40 AM
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JB didn’t want to risk it and extended theirs till January. Problem is we are not a proactive airline, we are reactive. So nothing will be done until after the meltdown occurs and causes havoc to tens of thousands of people…like the holidays. It will be hard to pin point it to PSC or not. But either way, nothing is going to happen in terms of us seeing any changes until the meltdowns.
Even if it does meltdown they will definitely find a reason other than PSC to blame it on.
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Old 11-03-2022 | 03:24 AM
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It seems weird that not having positive space commuting is viewed as potentially causing huge problems even though it didn’t cause huge problems prior to covid. Am I missing something? Company will book you a seat on your second flight if you can’t get a seat right?

I commuted for several years and now live in base. Maybe something has changed that I don’t know about.
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Old 11-03-2022 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 4fans
It seems weird that not having positive space commuting is viewed as potentially causing huge problems even though it didn’t cause huge problems prior to covid. Am I missing something? Company will book you a seat on your second flight if you can’t get a seat right?

I commuted for several years and now live in base. Maybe something has changed that I don’t know about.
There are less flights now due to the regionals shrinking and flights are far more full than I can recall pre-Covid. And at a time when record green slips have been going out. Timing just seems ill-planned.
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Old 11-03-2022 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 4fans
It seems weird that not having positive space commuting is viewed as potentially causing huge problems even though it didn’t cause huge problems prior to covid. Am I missing something? Company will book you a seat on your second flight if you can’t get a seat right?

I commuted for several years and now live in base. Maybe something has changed that I don’t know about.
One of the biggest factors is that there are a lot of city pairs that are still down 2-3 or even more flights per day from the pre-pandemic schedule. So not only are there fewer jumpseats overall, but fewer flights means having to come in even earlier than you used to on your primary flight and sit longer before ever starting your trip. And the flights we do have are going to be much fuller overall, especially over the busiest holiday travel season this company has ever had.
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Old 11-03-2022 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
There are less flights now due to the regionals shrinking and flights are far more full than I can recall pre-Covid. And at a time when record green slips have been going out. Timing just seems ill-planned.
Unfortunate on the timing, not ill planned. Not defending the company not extending it, but it was put in place when we really had no options during the massive Covid pull down. LOA 20-04 set a timeline for it and it was extended each time a cares act was passed.
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