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bode 11-06-2022 05:00 PM

PSC Vs Medical Insurance
 

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3527627)
When Alaska pilots commute to/from work they get to use their equivalent of S1 priority and go ahead of leisure non-revs. Why can't we at least do that here?


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jaxsurf 11-06-2022 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3527627)
When Alaska pilots commute to/from work they get to use their equivalent of S1 priority and go ahead of leisure non-revs. Why can't we at least do that here?

How dare you suggest such a thing? Don’t you know that would abrogate seniority?

It’ll be a cold day in hell before a more junior pilot going to/from work gets higher priority than a boomer going to/from vacation.

notEnuf 11-06-2022 05:07 PM

I don’t see the company ever giving positive space commuting again. It’s about inventory and revenue production. 40000 employees taking up seats whenever they want isn’t going to happen. Getting to work has always been the employees problem and non revenue travel has always been “just in case” there’s a seat left. Payload optimization and a fattening public aren’t helping. Jumpseats have always been the seats available for commuting and I don’t see it changing. FAs and pilots have seats available to them for confirmed seats to and from work. It worked before and it will work in the future. The company doesn’t care about QOL or ease of commuting when it’s put up against revenue generation.

jaxsurf 11-06-2022 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3527639)
I don’t see the company ever giving positive space commuting again. It’s abou inventory and revenue production. 45000 employees taking up seats whenever they want isn’t going to happen. Getting to work has always been the employees problem and non revenue travel has always been “just in case” there’s a seat left. Payload optimization and a fattening public aren’t helping. Jumpseats have always been the seats available for commuting and I don’t see it changing. FAs and pilots have seats available to them for confirmed seats to and from work. It worked before and it will work in the future. The company doesn’t care about QOL or ease of commuting when it’s put up against revenue generation.

100% agreed.

Also, I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for PSC.

ebl14 11-06-2022 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf;[url=tel:3527639
3527639[/url]]I don’t see the company ever giving positive space commuting again. It’s about inventory and revenue production. 40000 employees taking up seats whenever they want isn’t going to happen. Getting to work has always been the employees problem and non revenue travel has always been “just in case” there’s a seat left. Payload optimization and a fattening public aren’t helping. Jumpseats have always been the seats available for commuting and I don’t see it changing. FAs and pilots have seats available to them for confirmed seats to and from work. It worked before and it will work in the future. The company doesn’t care about QOL or ease of commuting when it’s put up against revenue generation.

Id rather see our 6 S2 passes per travel beneficiary turn into positive space passes with the ability to use them as long as a seat is open on travel net. Since pilots would want to save them I imagine most would Jumpseat or nonrev to save their passes for leisure, but they would help the commuters in a pinch.

bode 11-06-2022 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3527643)
100% agreed.

Also, I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for PSC.


Thank you for your support. And I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for better medical coverage.

Simple enough right? Somethings you don’t give a flying crap about, some things I don’t.


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jaxsurf 11-06-2022 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by bode (Post 3527732)
And I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for better medical coverage.

The company will start PSC if and when it benefits them, not before. If we give things up in order to secure PSC, we will have given those things up for nothing.

It’s not the same for medical coverage. I don’t use Delta’s medical insurance either, but I know that it sucks balls and needs to be improved.

sailingfun 11-07-2022 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3527753)
The company will start PSC if and when it benefits them, not before. If we give things up in order to secure PSC, we will have given those things up for nothing.

It’s not the same for medical coverage. I don’t use Delta’s medical insurance either, but I know that it sucks balls and needs to be improved.

Just to be clear. We already have PSC. You just have to attempt to commute on a prior flight.

jaxsurf 11-07-2022 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3527831)
Just to be clear. We already have PSC. You just have to attempt to commute on a prior flight.

You know it to be an indisputable fact that they will book you a seat 100% of the time on your second option?

Whoopsmybad 11-07-2022 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3527841)
You know it to be an indisputable fact that they will book you a seat 100% of the time on your second option?

Indisputable, no. Any time I’ve had to ask, yes.


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