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sailingfun 11-18-2022 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3533708)
Yes yes, we know. Your way would have netted us a contract years ago, probably prior to the amendable date, but here we are stuck with nothing because nobody would listen to you.

Keep telling ALPA to ask for less, your unity is appreciated…

I just want the highest pay and quality of life possible. I am not sure what some of posters here want but that’s not it. Some just want conflict and seem to thrive on it.

tunes 11-18-2022 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3533872)
I just want the highest pay and quality of life possible. I am not sure what some of posters here want but that’s not it. Some just want conflict and seem to thrive on it.


Will you still be posting here after you retire?


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sailingfun 11-18-2022 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3533887)
Will you still be posting here after you retire?


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No, When you do get a new contract look back however and see how close it matches what I predicted. We are moving closer and closer as each month passes buy. I can tell that annoys some of you. I will be fishing, diving and sailing while trying to be around positive people!

sailingfun 11-18-2022 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jonny Drama (Post 3530403)
My sources say no, they actually say that there isn’t even an offer of 18. Still nothing beyond the mediator required money offer from 6 weeks ago, which I hear was about 12% DOS or should I say DOA…

I heard the same however that number does not jibe with the 1.38 billion posted by one of the MEC chairman candidates unless the 1.38 was the last year of a new contract not the first.

tunes 11-18-2022 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3533889)
No, When you do get a new contract look back however and see how close it matches what I predicted. We are moving closer and closer as each month passes buy. I can tell that annoys some of you. I will be fishing, diving and sailing while trying to be around positive people!


I’ll tell you now, it won’t match your predictions.


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Crown 11-18-2022 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3533889)
No, When you do get a new contract look back however and see how close it matches what I predicted. We are moving closer and closer as each month passes buy. I can tell that annoys some of you. I will be fishing, diving and sailing while trying to be around positive people!

for my reference, what did/do you actually predict? Not throwing darts

WhiskeyDog 11-18-2022 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3533889)
No, When you do get a new contract look back however and see how close it matches what I predicted. We are moving closer and closer as each month passes buy. I can tell that annoys some of you. I will be fishing, diving and sailing while trying to be around positive people!

If only there was a way for you to convince of your greatness now? It seems such a waste that we’ll have to wait until you’re gone, to fully understand your all knowing capabilities? 🧐

sailingfun 11-18-2022 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Crown (Post 3533917)
for my reference, what did/do you actually predict? Not throwing darts

That the moon Rocket shot contract opener would not result in a contract and in the end we would get a much more modest contract in the 1 billion dollar range but several years later. I was told by the forum however that the company badly needed a contract and with a tough MEC we would produce a historic contract on time in 2019. It was posted we had lots of leverage but no one would define what exactly the leverage we had working for us might be other than the company had training and pilot needs. How that could be converted to leverage with the no concessions on anything approach eluded me.I suspect now we will end up with under ⅓ of a billion in retro for 2019, perhaps even less.
Moonshots have been tried under the RLA many times. The success rate to date is zero. The secret to success is short ontime contracts that keep compounding and bring your competitors pilots costs up with you. That moves the NMB’s coveted zone of reasonableness up. We abandoned what works and tried what has never worked. The result so far is less than zero with inflation.

blue vortex 11-18-2022 05:58 AM

Like it or not guys he’s right.

notEnuf 11-18-2022 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3533816)
This is my answer.

https://youtu.be/8FOg2nYHXb8

Ed thinks he's The Kurgan though.

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Ed's response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG_k5CSYKhg


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