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11-12-2022, 06:24 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
Nothing official. If there is any truth to this it’s a step in the right direction, but still falls slightly short of my “YES” trigger. Lot of pieces to this puzzle.
11-12-2022, 08:42 AM
#25
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Position: 737
Posts: 288
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Anecdotally, my local pizza shop raised their two pizza special from $18.99 to $24.99. That’s 24%. And that is my floor for a yes vote.
I'm liking that math your throwing down there, much more my speed.
11-12-2022, 09:18 AM
#27
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Position: A320
Posts: 65
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Anecdotally, my local pizza shop raised their two pizza special from $18.99 to $24.99. That’s 24%. And that is my floor for a yes vote.
We all need to let it sink in that we need to see some giant numbers just to tread water from where we were at 3 years ago.
11-13-2022, 05:01 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 274
FWIW. I went to the BLS web-site and calculated inflation using their tool
I arbitrarily picked July '19 (mid year), and calculated thru October '22 (latest data available) 16.1519%
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
so, 16.15% raise is inflation neutral - and yes, I understand that the CPI has understated inflation by design since at least the 80s.
Then, do we expect a raise from the 2019 rates - loud YES from me - this is the best pilot power environment ever - if we can't get it now, we can't get it ever.
I don't get why ALPA cannot get a post amendable date automatic inflation indexed raise into the contract - got to stop giving the company incentive to delay new contract.
I arbitrarily picked July '19 (mid year), and calculated thru October '22 (latest data available) 16.1519%
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
so, 16.15% raise is inflation neutral - and yes, I understand that the CPI has understated inflation by design since at least the 80s.
Then, do we expect a raise from the 2019 rates - loud YES from me - this is the best pilot power environment ever - if we can't get it now, we can't get it ever.
I don't get why ALPA cannot get a post amendable date automatic inflation indexed raise into the contract - got to stop giving the company incentive to delay new contract.
11-13-2022, 05:08 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
Originally Posted by cantflylist
FWIW. I went to the BLS web-site and calculated inflation using their tool
I arbitrarily picked July '19 (mid year), and calculated thru October '22 (latest data available) 16.1519%
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
so, 16.15% raise is inflation neutral - and yes, I understand that the CPI has understated inflation by design since at least the 80s.
Then, do we expect a raise from the 2019 rates - loud YES from me - this is the best pilot power environment ever - if we can't get it now, we can't get it ever.
I don't get why ALPA cannot get a post amendable date automatic inflation indexed raise into the contract - got to stop giving the company incentive to delay new contract.
I arbitrarily picked July '19 (mid year), and calculated thru October '22 (latest data available) 16.1519%
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
so, 16.15% raise is inflation neutral - and yes, I understand that the CPI has understated inflation by design since at least the 80s.
Then, do we expect a raise from the 2019 rates - loud YES from me - this is the best pilot power environment ever - if we can't get it now, we can't get it ever.
I don't get why ALPA cannot get a post amendable date automatic inflation indexed raise into the contract - got to stop giving the company incentive to delay new contract.
11-13-2022, 05:24 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
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Posts: 900
Originally Posted by higney85
I find it a bit interesting that by COB today (Friday) there is zero mention of negotiations this week from either side. Not elevating a trial balloon, but nothing has been said from either side. I don’t see an AIP out of this week(meaning I see the possible balloon fell), but I’d expect an update on sections open, yet no comms. An update of closing a single section (all now major) would indicate some movement. Crickets. Yawn and to bed.
The union is waiting for Monday because you know the weekend. I'm sure all had Friday off because of Veteran's day.
