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11-23-2022 | 09:30 PM
#421
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11-23-2022 | 10:14 PM
#422
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Joined: Aug 2012
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From: ATL 330 A
Two signatures at the bottom of every TA, and neither side is surrendering.
11-23-2022 | 10:16 PM
#423
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From: ATL 330 A
Tell me you don’t read emails from ALPA without telling me you don’t read emails from ALPA.
11-24-2022 | 01:37 AM
#424
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Joined: Nov 2013
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From: A320 Left seat
I asked a Union guy YEARS ago why we didn’t ask for something like this. His response was that the company would never agree to something like this because we would never be motivated to negotiate when our contract was up. In other words, management would lose the power of the RLA. I doubt we’ve even tried. Now that we are negotiating under a mediator, maybe they’ll ask, but I doubt it.
11-24-2022 | 04:20 AM
#426
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I asked a Union guy YEARS ago why we didn’t ask for something like this. His response was that the company would never agree to something like this because we would never be motivated to negotiate when our contract was up. In other words, management would lose the power of the RLA. I doubt we’ve even tried. Now that we are negotiating under a mediator, maybe they’ll ask, but I doubt it.
11-24-2022 | 04:56 AM
#427
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From: 737 A
I asked a Union guy YEARS ago why we didn’t ask for something like this. His response was that the company would never agree to something like this because we would never be motivated to negotiate when our contract was up. In other words, management would lose the power of the RLA. I doubt we’ve even tried. Now that we are negotiating under a mediator, maybe they’ll ask, but I doubt it.
11-24-2022 | 05:06 AM
#428
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From: CRJ FO
Maybe we could negotiate annual 4% raises for the next 20 years in exchange for no big pay bump up front and no retro. But how many of our pilots are 55+ and would scoff at that idea? And who’s doing the negotiating for legacy pilots? Is it junior guys with quality of life on their mind or is it senior guys with money on their mind? We all know the answer.
11-24-2022 | 06:47 AM
#429
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From: MD-88 FO
This industry is cyclical. Why would any management team negotiate downward wage pressure during a downturn?
Maybe we could negotiate annual 4% raises for the next 20 years in exchange for no big pay bump up front and no retro. But how many of our pilots are 55+ and would scoff at that idea? And who’s doing the negotiating for legacy pilots? Is it junior guys with quality of life on their mind or is it senior guys with money on their mind? We all know the answer.
Maybe we could negotiate annual 4% raises for the next 20 years in exchange for no big pay bump up front and no retro. But how many of our pilots are 55+ and would scoff at that idea? And who’s doing the negotiating for legacy pilots? Is it junior guys with quality of life on their mind or is it senior guys with money on their mind? We all know the answer.
11-24-2022 | 06:49 AM
#430
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
