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11-23-2022, 09:51 AM
#401
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,033
Originally Posted by Banzai
Where the RLA works most aggressively against us is where the company can drag feet for long enough that “retro” becomes such a prohibitive cost item that it moves beyond the “zone of reasonableness”. Never mind how it got there, but if the company were to drag this along for, say, three more years, they could then make the claim that six years of retro is simply too much of a financial burden…unless, of course, the pilots are willing to give up a lot of things to get it.
In this, the RLA gives all the power to the company. We have zero power to secure timely contracts. We may insist on full retro, but the company merely has to drag it out long enough to place it beyond reach.
In this, the RLA gives all the power to the company. We have zero power to secure timely contracts. We may insist on full retro, but the company merely has to drag it out long enough to place it beyond reach.
11-23-2022, 10:47 AM
#404
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: 737 A
Posts: 901
Originally Posted by notEnuf
Two words. Escalator clause. If the environment was ever right, it’s now. Que the TVM and retro arguments. Fix this now and retro and company foot dragging becomes moo. This needs to be done or we are doomed to continue the cycle.
11-23-2022, 11:42 AM
#405
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Position: 717a
Posts: 638
Originally Posted by Trip7
All the pieces are in place. I am optimistic we will have an AIP soon.
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11-23-2022, 11:49 AM
#406
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Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
Originally Posted by Nantonaku
The company still gets a free ride for all those years they dragged their feet on all the supposed gains we have coming in scheduling, vacation and other QOL items.
11-23-2022, 11:50 AM
#407
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
Originally Posted by notEnuf
Two words. Escalator clause. If the environment was ever right, it’s now. Que the TVM and retro arguments. Fix this now and retro and company foot dragging becomes moo. This needs to be done or we are doomed to continue the cycle.
11-23-2022, 12:25 PM
#408
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
Posts: 2,580
Originally Posted by JamesBond
I disagree. Those that retired or died need to be paid for work they did.
11-23-2022, 01:13 PM
#409
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Posts: 277
Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
Oh look. The same dumb conversation is being floated. With people saying it will pass 62-38 without 2 years of retro. My God.
Mooner always shows up around contract time. We have all the leverage folks….
11-23-2022, 01:15 PM
#410
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Posts: 742
Originally Posted by Banzai
Where the RLA works most aggressively against us is where the company can drag feet for long enough that,…….
Yes. That’s the problem. The RLA is overseen and administered by U.S. Department of Labor,…..by and through federal mediators,….. who answer to the U.S. Secretary of Labor,……. who was formerly the mayor of Boston and a Massachusetts state representative and who likely has future political ambitions AND the need for political campaign funding.
While I hate the idea of unions funneling money to politicians, (especially those with a “D” after their names), it might be smart for DAPLA to test the waters and see if the Honorable Marty Walsh, U.S. Secretary of Labor, is in the mood to accept campaign funds from the unionized pilots of Delta Airlines and repay the favor by leaning on his federal mediator(s).
Just a thought.
