Big E 757

Sorry Mulcher. It was clear to me you worked for SW and were asking an honest, respectful question.

Planetrain

There is no deadline or cutoff in NC. Everyone can negotiate again at a later date next month if needed.

Big E 757

I think he understands this. He’s just saying that if MGT is sending GH with their negotiating team and the MEC AND Negotiating committee are all attending, we are either on the cusp of a deal, or this is the last best chance to try to get closer or the Mediator is going to put us in a time out.

Planetrain

My point is this is not binary: AIP or Timeout. Don’t be surprised if we get neither.

Big E 757

I agree. I’m cautiously optimistic, but as you said, we might still have a way to go at the end of their sessions next week.

Bottlen0se

I realize optimism doesn’t go well on these boards, but I personally believe that we reach an AIP if not next week then the following session. TA before the end of the year. Also bet whatever is sent to us won’t be a blowout but will be good enough to pass. Company will likely give in to most of our asks.

Mooner

I agree. On balance, it will be a solid gain for Delta pilots.

I’ll stick with my prediction of a “Christmas surprise” articulated in another thread. I will also stick with my belief we will see 100% retro back to Jan 1 2022, no retro for 2020 and 2021. I expect pay raise effective Jan 1 2023 will handily beat inflation for 2023, sufficient to back fill inflation for both 2021 and 2020. Out-year raises for 2024,25 will marginally exceed the 3 year rolling average inflation rate (currently 4.6%). Result: a 5 year period with a positive real rate increase of approximately 1% annually.

Most here will hate it and call for immediate demolition of the MEC and the airline.

The TA will pass 72-28.

**Disclosure**

Of course I’m a company planted trial balloon pilot. As an insider, I will absolutely confirm that this board accurately represents the opinions of the average pilot and management. It is a critical tool to formulate management’s table position.

StartngOvr

I'd say these two outcomes are mutually exclusive.....

Crown

I've got the pass rate at 62-38. Already talking to a lot of pilots who are no voters no matter what we get. C16's leadership will ensure most of that base will vote no.

Trip7

LAX pilot group is a chill group. Just have a looney toon of an LEC Chairman. How he keeps getting reelected is beyond me

I've talked to several neutral Committe Members who are subject matter experts and are there to truly serve the pilot group. Apparently the C16 Chair is the type that will come to a Committe Member asking for clarification on why the sky is gray and when they tell him no in fact the Sky is blue and here's why he doesnt want to hear it

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