Scope Language out
01-17-2023 | 12:20 PM
#11
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,995
Likes: 176
WB protections look great to me. Good luck to management posting and awarding a remediation bid and then converting the remediated pilots all in a 6 month timeline. I predict a lot of conversions sitting at home with WB pay awaiting training.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
01-17-2023 | 12:38 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,130
Likes: 189
WB protections look great to me. Good luck to management posting and awarding a remediation bid and then converting the remediated pilots all in a 6 month timeline. I predict a lot of conversions sitting at home with WB pay awaiting training.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
01-17-2023 | 12:45 PM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,526
Likes: 481
01-17-2023 | 12:54 PM
#14
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 6
From: 737 A
01-17-2023 | 12:55 PM
#15
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 6
From: 737 A
WB protections look great to me. Good luck to management posting and awarding a remediation bid and then converting the remediated pilots all in a 6 month timeline. I predict a lot of conversions sitting at home with WB pay awaiting training.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
01-17-2023 | 12:58 PM
#16
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,588
Likes: 4
From: MD-88 FO
WB protections look great to me. Good luck to management posting and awarding a remediation bid and then converting the remediated pilots all in a 6 month timeline. I predict a lot of conversions sitting at home with WB pay awaiting training.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
Also I like the remediation is based on hours and then converted jobs in a 2 CA/2 FO payment. Could have been 1 CA/ 2 FO.
01-17-2023 | 01:35 PM
#17
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,995
Likes: 176
Maybe I’m a little callous with my first comment considering our cabotage protections, but as to the second, what NB aircraft has a 9+ hour range and a heavy 3 or 4 class useable cabin that adheres to SkyTeam standards like Delta One?
Unless KLM relocates to KEF and travelers are willing to ride a narrow body and make 1am connections in Iceland (Ala Emirates), I don’t see a workable threat. 32N/223/Max doesn’t have the range or payload with a first class cabin for flights much more than 6/7hr + reserves.
Unless KLM relocates to KEF and travelers are willing to ride a narrow body and make 1am connections in Iceland (Ala Emirates), I don’t see a workable threat. 32N/223/Max doesn’t have the range or payload with a first class cabin for flights much more than 6/7hr + reserves.
01-17-2023 | 01:36 PM
#18
Can't abide NAI
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Still absorbing the information but a couple of issues jump right out, some of which (AM and WestJet) have already been identified by those on this board. WestJet and AM would still be controlled by 1 E. 2. which limits codeshare:
a. more than 40% of the passenger seats in any month on any pair of flight segments in 13 a city pair (e.g., CDG-ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier, 14
b. a monthly average of more than 175 passenger seats per flight segment (e.g., CDG15 ATL or ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier on flying other than flying covered by Section 1 E. 2. c. and d., or
c. a monthly average of more than 75 passenger seats per flight segment of such foreign 18 air carrier to and from Mexico, the Caribbean, Canada or Central America,
a. more than 40% of the passenger seats in any month on any pair of flight segments in 13 a city pair (e.g., CDG-ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier, 14
b. a monthly average of more than 175 passenger seats per flight segment (e.g., CDG15 ATL or ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier on flying other than flying covered by Section 1 E. 2. c. and d., or
c. a monthly average of more than 75 passenger seats per flight segment of such foreign 18 air carrier to and from Mexico, the Caribbean, Canada or Central America,
01-17-2023 | 01:58 PM
#19
Line Holder
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 458
Likes: 74
Maybe I’m a little callous with my first comment considering our cabotage protections, but as to the second, what NB aircraft has a 9+ hour range and a heavy 3 or 4 class useable cabin that adheres to SkyTeam standards like Delta One?
Unless KLM relocates to KEF and travelers are willing to ride a narrow body and make 1am connections in Iceland (Ala Emirates), I don’t see a workable threat. 32N/223/Max doesn’t have the range or payload with a first class cabin for flights much more than 6/7hr + reserves.
Unless KLM relocates to KEF and travelers are willing to ride a narrow body and make 1am connections in Iceland (Ala Emirates), I don’t see a workable threat. 32N/223/Max doesn’t have the range or payload with a first class cabin for flights much more than 6/7hr + reserves.
01-17-2023 | 02:05 PM
#20
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 6
From: 737 A
Maybe I’m a little callous with my first comment considering our cabotage protections, but as to the second, what NB aircraft has a 9+ hour range and a heavy 3 or 4 class useable cabin that adheres to SkyTeam standards like Delta One?
Unless KLM relocates to KEF and travelers are willing to ride a narrow body and make 1am connections in Iceland (Ala Emirates), I don’t see a workable threat. 32N/223/Max doesn’t have the range or payload with a first class cabin for flights much more than 6/7hr + reserves.
Unless KLM relocates to KEF and travelers are willing to ride a narrow body and make 1am connections in Iceland (Ala Emirates), I don’t see a workable threat. 32N/223/Max doesn’t have the range or payload with a first class cabin for flights much more than 6/7hr + reserves.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
