Pro/Con Papers?
02-09-2023 | 12:22 PM
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Scheds invoking 23.M.7 is a scheduler taking away your GS…it’s not VAS taking away your GS.
Apples to apples is comparing TA-2 coverage ladder to TA2019 coverage ladder.
If the ladders are followed the way they should, VAS comes after GS, therefore, they literally cannot take away your GS.
And even if they do invoke 23.M.7 and they skipped GS and VAS steps and you had GS in, you would get single pay over the most senior pilot that was on VAS, so VAS can’t take away that pay either.
So what’s your point again?
Apples to apples is comparing TA-2 coverage ladder to TA2019 coverage ladder.
If the ladders are followed the way they should, VAS comes after GS, therefore, they literally cannot take away your GS.
And even if they do invoke 23.M.7 and they skipped GS and VAS steps and you had GS in, you would get single pay over the most senior pilot that was on VAS, so VAS can’t take away that pay either.
So what’s your point again?
02-09-2023 | 12:24 PM
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They don’t just put green slips in. It’s out of base white slips. Senior guy stays senior for everyone of those skipped. If I was Uber senior I’d consider that trick although I don’t know how they deal with all of the Arcos calls for the trips that are being covered in the proper order.
02-09-2023 | 12:26 PM
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If anyone was expecting to be wowed by the Pro-Con papers in either direction they will be disappointed. Basically dry regurgitation of the gains on the Pro side, alongside we should have gotten more on the Con side. The seven unanswered QOL gain pages is probably the only exception - and speaks greatly to the quantity of QOL improvements.
In any case I doubt many minds or votes will be changed, but I do appreciate the effort to point out both the good and bad.
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In any case I doubt many minds or votes will be changed, but I do appreciate the effort to point out both the good and bad.
Scoop
02-09-2023 | 12:29 PM
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I have no reason to think it wouldn’t be on daily trip coverage.
02-09-2023 | 12:56 PM
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If anyone was expecting to be wowed by the Pro-Con papers in either direction they will be disappointed. Basically dry regurgitation of the gains on the Pro side, alongside we should have gotten more on the Con side. The seven unanswered QOL gain pages is probably the only exception - and speaks greatly to the quantity of QOL improvements.
In any case I doubt many minds or votes will be changed, but I do appreciate the effort to point out both the good and bad.
Scoop
In any case I doubt many minds or votes will be changed, but I do appreciate the effort to point out both the good and bad.
Scoop
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02-09-2023 | 02:21 PM
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02-09-2023 | 04:10 PM
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Ironically it shows how out of touch you are that you don't seem to be aware of the new API access.
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