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Old 02-12-2023 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
While the previous NYC administration was the largest user of GFB calls, they do happen all over the system with regularity.

Knock on wood, but I’ve never gotten one. To me GFB is nothing but intimidation. Has anyone ever not been able to produce a note?
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Old 02-12-2023 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
What is sick-ok? Calling in sick to avoid short call, then calling in well?
Well, that’s what the CPO is clearly is thinking.

But yes, calling in sick (even if days prior), then Ok on the first work day, maybe even before noon. Obviously some people have employed this as a grossly inappropriate way to avoid a trip. As I said, in my case, it was 100% legit, and I did use a single day of sick.

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Old 02-12-2023 | 11:37 AM
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Anyone know if the 100hrs to 120hrs will reset everyone currently in that 100 hr QHCP? I would be ok under the 120hrs, but currently fall outside the 100 hrs.

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Old 02-12-2023 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SimWorld
Anyone know if the 100hrs to 120hrs will reset everyone currently in that 100 hr QHCP? I would be ok under the 120hrs, but currently fall outside the 100 hrs.

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I have no idea. Can't focus on question. Center justification so mind bottling.
Sorry for the useless comment.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Well, that’s what the CPO is clearly is thinking.

But yes, calling in sick (even if days prior), then Ok on the first work day, maybe even before noon. Obviously some people have employed this as a grossly inappropriate way to avoid a trip. As I said, in my case, it was 100% legit, and I did use a single day of sick.
Ah. Makes sense now. Call in sick, wait for trip to get assigned to someone else, then call in well. Got it.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 12:14 PM
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Isn’t there also something that if you are sick and wait to call in well right before 11 on first on call day, then that day isn’t credited as a sick day. I think this may be the larger issue.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Ah. Makes sense now. Call in sick, wait for trip to get assigned to someone else, then call in well. Got it.
Great way to screw your fellow pilots.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Great way to screw your fellow pilots.
There is no I in team, but there is a me.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SimWorld
Anyone know if the 100hrs to 120hrs will reset everyone currently in that 100 hr QHCP? I would be ok under the 120hrs, but currently fall outside the 100 hrs.

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As of 4/1 the threshold will be 120 hours. As long as you are under 120 for the previous 12 bid periods, no more verification.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Great way to screw your fellow pilots.
I know folks think you should work on the fourth floor, but I’ll add you are perfect material for the CPO. Care to do a quick stint before retirement to help protect fellow pilots? Being sick definitely screws your fellow pilots, and shouldn’t be allowed. If you’ve been assigned a trip or short call or are on your first day of a string of reserve days, you should always be forced to commute in and sick out in person after sign-in in person in the CPO.

Calling in sick after being assigned a trip, or after being assigned short call would trigger GFBs in multiple bases. This was an actual CPO policy, and not some well-intentioned mechanism to pressure serial abusers. Schedulers kept a log of anyone who called in under these circumstances, forward the list to the CPO, and FOMs under the direction of actual chief pilots / RDs like MP in DTW would then call these pilots and force a doctor visit for verification…skipping the first contractual option to consider the sick event verified after discussion on the phone of general circumstances.

Never mind that the evening before a trip or short call is when one would logically evaluate their fitness for duty (after the time when open time was assigned but often with well over 12 hours to sign-in), it’s broad-brush policies like this that are corrosive to any employer/employee relationship. And when the “good faith” basis call came in days after the sick event and often after a pilot has already called in well, getting a retrospective doctor’s note was awkward for all involved. Even if one wanted to - knowing the GFB was coming based on the timing of their sick call - they couldn’t pre-verify a sick event.

Sadly, it takes a CPO interaction or two before newbies figure out that the CPO is not on your side as folks are led to believe during indoc.
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