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Old 05-22-2023 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Puddytatt
Kind of ironic how all this IA stuff started immediately after we signed the PWA and left section 6. Almost like they knew it was a violation of the status quo.
Not ironic at all.

Just learn from it.
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Old 05-22-2023 | 07:04 AM
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What specific part of our new PWA leaves a loophole for this IA abuse that our previous contract didn't have?
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Old 05-22-2023 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
What specific part of our new PWA leaves a loophole for this IA abuse that our previous contract didn't have?
There’s No loop hole it’s pretty clear in the new contract as it was in the old, Go read 23.M.7

Leaves it up to “scheduler judgement.”

I think the only argument we have is that the company isn’t pay protecting the passed over pilot without being prodded.
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Old 05-22-2023 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rooster435
There’s No loop hole it’s pretty clear in the new contract as it was in the old, Go read 23.M.7

Leaves it up to “scheduler judgement.”

I think the only argument we have is that the company isn’t pay protecting the passed over pilot without being prodded.
Are there any changes to 23.M.7 between this contract and the last one? Because as far as far as I understand there weren't any. So this premise then that what's causing the IA abuse is the new contract is incorrect correlation. So, my point to JB and Puddy: you made the claim, now present the evidence.
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Old 05-22-2023 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Puddytatt
Kind of ironic how all this IA stuff started immediately after we signed the PWA and left section 6. Almost like they knew it was a violation of the status quo.
Puddy's point was that even if no changes in 23.M.7 they couldn't have been "abusing" IA during sec 6 because a good case could be made that it was a "status quo" violation. Now that Delta has a new PWA, the company can do with as please as far as interpretation of 23.M.7, and the only recourse ALPA has is a grievance.(but no status quo violation like during sec 6)
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Old 05-22-2023 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
you are gonna find out. Enjoy those 2 am GS call for which you are gonna be number 235 in line
hopefully they didn't change the quiet hours batches...even the ones like me most mad about batches said don't change that part of it, but ya know-they usually go too far one way or another so we will see
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Old 05-22-2023 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
you are gonna find out. Enjoy those 2 am GS call for which you are gonna be number 235 in line
Doesn't bother me one bit. If I put in a blanket "call me for anything anywhere anytime" request in a large understaffed category, I'm not a martyr when the phone rings for something someone else ends up getting.

Especially when I know I don't want the vast majority of things that come up then anyway.

I know how to silence the ringer as well as the vibrate function on my phone and only get a visual alert. Or just put it in airplane mode altogether.

Batch size violatiuons that pay out simply for your phone ringing when you put in a blanket request is something I can't wait to cost out and trade for enhancements to literally anything else in the PWA.
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Old 05-22-2023 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Not ironic at all.

Just learn from it.
Sorry, I forgot to use my sarcasm font.
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Old 05-22-2023 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Puddytatt
Sorry, I forgot to use my sarcasm font.
Whoops, my point stands for JB then
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Old 05-22-2023 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Whoops, my point stands for JB then
Let's just see what happens. The evidence will them be self evident. If I'm FOS, then all will be well and the whining about batch sizes will disappear, right?
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