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09-17-2023 | 03:10 PM
#281
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Wow! Carefui what you wish for, this might catch E.B.'s eye. Dump the safety vests and put the cost on you.
09-17-2023 | 03:32 PM
#282
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I wish I had my affiliate link set up. This is could be a big seller.
I wish I had my affiliate link set up. This is could be a big seller.
09-17-2023 | 05:09 PM
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09-17-2023 | 05:36 PM
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09-17-2023 | 05:56 PM
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I did a walk around in YUL several years ago, dead of winter and ambient temp -20F. No overcoat or winter gear except for a black knit cap with my Guard unit’s logo. I “expedited” the second half of the walk around because half way through I could barely breath. It felt like my lungs were literally freezing. I get back in the jetway with my hat on and the captain sarcastically says, “nice hat, is that authorized in the FOM?”
We need more uniform options, specifically outerwear. Pouring rain? How professional is a soaking wet admiral’s coat that smells like a wet dog? I carry (and use) a very light/thin Northface rain jacket for these situations. -20F? How professional is a pilot who literally can’t breathe and has to urgently rush through a walk-around? Bottom line, it’s often a safety issue, and I’m not afraid to point that out to supervision if questioned.
As a global airline, we need a number of uniform options, especially since we can be in scenarios such as YUL one night and BOG the next… in January.
We need more uniform options, specifically outerwear. Pouring rain? How professional is a soaking wet admiral’s coat that smells like a wet dog? I carry (and use) a very light/thin Northface rain jacket for these situations. -20F? How professional is a pilot who literally can’t breathe and has to urgently rush through a walk-around? Bottom line, it’s often a safety issue, and I’m not afraid to point that out to supervision if questioned.
As a global airline, we need a number of uniform options, especially since we can be in scenarios such as YUL one night and BOG the next… in January.
09-17-2023 | 08:27 PM
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09-18-2023 | 08:15 AM
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Neidermeyer, would you just ****! Doubling down on the douchbaggery about the uniform and the FOM. Lot's of things in the FOM get ignored daily. If you have read anything other than company material, closed your eyes for a quick catnap, spoken about anything other than checklist or pertinent to flight below 10,000, used a foreign language such as "gracias" in the cockpit, not turned your phone off until the cabin door is closed, etc, you too are guilty. And if you say you haven't, you're full of it. I personally don't own a North Face jacket other than the one's I got at the market in Beijing 20+ years ago because I'm too cheap. That may change though. I may bid 330A in Seattle and buy a North Face to strut around in just for you. Better yet, every Delta pilot transiting SEA should make sure to have a non approved jacket and have their hats riding on the suitcase just for you.
Bottom line to all of you for whatever reason keep arguing with me about jackets - who is right and who is wrong? End of story. If you feel the need to not follow FOM guidance that’s on you, but please stop encouraging new hires to go out and buy North Face jackets cuz they going to end flying with captains that are not ok with that - present company included.
09-18-2023 | 10:01 AM
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