Peak Gas In China
09-01-2023 | 01:44 PM
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From Urban Dictionary:
"WOKE: Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain [groups] in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm."
"WOKE: Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain [groups] in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm."
09-01-2023 | 01:52 PM
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From Urban Dictionary:
"WOKE: Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain [groups] in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm."
"WOKE: Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain [groups] in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm."
09-01-2023 | 02:25 PM
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I feel his definition fairly accurately describes what is meant by that term which has morphed over the last couple of years.
Do you think it is inaccurate? If so, why?
09-01-2023 | 02:26 PM
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
You’re leaving out a few things about your $5,000 car.
First, they were about $13,000, but the government subsidized about $8,200 per car… I know, still cheap
Second, they were built by people making only a few dollars an hour (don’t you talk about a living wage in one of your other posts?), you’re paying $13,000 so someone else can barely get by
Third, they only got about 62 miles to a charge when new, and have mostly been abandoned. If you add cleanup and disposal, I wonder what the true cost will be, even at the few dollar an hour rate.
These are cars built as recently as 2021. Just because your Nerd Wallet article is 2023, don’t believe that much has changed beyond cosmetics.
Here is a Bloomberg article on it, lest you accuse me of spouting oil company propaganda.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2...ev-graveyards/
First, they were about $13,000, but the government subsidized about $8,200 per car… I know, still cheap
Second, they were built by people making only a few dollars an hour (don’t you talk about a living wage in one of your other posts?), you’re paying $13,000 so someone else can barely get by
Third, they only got about 62 miles to a charge when new, and have mostly been abandoned. If you add cleanup and disposal, I wonder what the true cost will be, even at the few dollar an hour rate.
These are cars built as recently as 2021. Just because your Nerd Wallet article is 2023, don’t believe that much has changed beyond cosmetics.
Here is a Bloomberg article on it, lest you accuse me of spouting oil company propaganda.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2...ev-graveyards/
A living wage is relative. I don’t care what Chinese workers make; seems to work for them. Wish Americans built these, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
The US can’t subsidize an EV enough to simultaneously manufacture it here, with good union wages, and produce a product the average US driver wants to own at a price they can afford in numbers that matter.
The China EV May suck compare to a Tesla, but at roughly one half to one third the cost of a new US gas car, plenty would buy it, even with a 62 mile range. More than enough for the majority of commutes.
Commutes that will probably shorten due to transportation options. The “15 minute city” is less a right wing boogeyman than an acknowledgement that infinite growth with cheap cars/transport can’t happen. The suburbs and the exburbs only happen with great national wealth, a limited population, and cheap resources.
Besides: EVs are at least as much about climate change as gas production challenges. So we’re told. A cheap, but adequate transportation vehicle should be a boon to the world, if that’s what we’re aimin* for and not something else.
09-01-2023 | 02:30 PM
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Whether or not you recognize the urban dictionary as a real dictionary is irrelevant. The question posed was.... "WOKE......Please define."
I feel his definition fairly accurately describes what is meant by that term which has morphed over the last couple of years.
Do you think it is inaccurate? If so, why?
I feel his definition fairly accurately describes what is meant by that term which has morphed over the last couple of years.
Do you think it is inaccurate? If so, why?
09-01-2023 | 02:51 PM
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Woke has no meaning anymore. It's been transformed by ultra conservatives and used as a bludgeon to blow up any argument or idea that isn't ultra conservative. The sole purpose is to stop dialogue and attack anyone who doesn't think like them. I don't call anyone who has a conservative viewpoint "inbred." Doing that is the exact same as calling someone or something woke as an insult.
09-01-2023 | 04:29 PM
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That was a very cogent reply. Sorry I didn't quite understand it. Could you try using something like words, thoughts and ideas that the common man could understand, .or are you possibly trying to stifle conversation and stop dialogue.... IOW, are you woke or inbred?
09-01-2023 | 04:34 PM
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From: Pilot
No shill shaming here!
A living wage is relative. I don’t care what Chinese workers make; seems to work for them. Wish Americans built these, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
The US can’t subsidize an EV enough to simultaneously manufacture it here, with good union wages, and produce a product the average US driver wants to own at a price they can afford in numbers that matter.
The China EV May suck compare to a Tesla, but at roughly one half to one third the cost of a new US gas car, plenty would buy it, even with a 62 mile range. More than enough for the majority of commutes.
Commutes that will probably shorten due to transportation options. The “15 minute city” is less a right wing boogeyman than an acknowledgement that infinite growth with cheap cars/transport can’t happen. The suburbs and the exburbs only happen with great national wealth, a limited population, and cheap resources.
Besides: EVs are at least as much about climate change as gas production challenges. So we’re told. A cheap, but adequate transportation vehicle should be a boon to the world, if that’s what we’re aimin* for and not something else.
A living wage is relative. I don’t care what Chinese workers make; seems to work for them. Wish Americans built these, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
The US can’t subsidize an EV enough to simultaneously manufacture it here, with good union wages, and produce a product the average US driver wants to own at a price they can afford in numbers that matter.
The China EV May suck compare to a Tesla, but at roughly one half to one third the cost of a new US gas car, plenty would buy it, even with a 62 mile range. More than enough for the majority of commutes.
Commutes that will probably shorten due to transportation options. The “15 minute city” is less a right wing boogeyman than an acknowledgement that infinite growth with cheap cars/transport can’t happen. The suburbs and the exburbs only happen with great national wealth, a limited population, and cheap resources.
Besides: EVs are at least as much about climate change as gas production challenges. So we’re told. A cheap, but adequate transportation vehicle should be a boon to the world, if that’s what we’re aimin* for and not something else.
09-01-2023 | 04:35 PM
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From: Pilot
Woke has no meaning anymore. It's been transformed by ultra conservatives and used as a bludgeon to blow up any argument or idea that isn't ultra conservative. The sole purpose is to stop dialogue and attack anyone who doesn't think like them. I don't call anyone who has a conservative viewpoint "inbred." Doing that is the exact same as calling someone or something woke as an insult.
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