Peak Gas In China
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As to your question, I don't think a quantum physicist without any published research in atmospheric science or climate modeling has any business speaking as an expert in climate models in the first place. Just like you would have no business speaking about trains at a train symposium.
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As to your question, I don't think a quantum physicist without any published research in atmospheric science or climate modeling has any business speaking as an expert in climate models in the first place. Just like you would have no business speaking about trains at a train symposium.
Seems like someone let Fauci make policy decisions that effected a myriad of facets of American life that he had no business speaking about. So, it appears it's acceptable if they back up one's ideology but unacceptable if they are contrary to one's leanings? That's the point.
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Back in the early 1800’s people up north wanted cotton and they said about the same things of the slaves in the south who were forced to pick it. It doesn’t “work for them” it’s their only option.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/12/21...-human-rights/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/12/21...-human-rights/
Are you comparing an economic “comparative advantage” (a “term of art”) with institutionalized multi generational chattel slavery?
(I mean, write whatever you want, but I’ll just back off and politely say “I disagree with your analysis.” The Uyghur situation is a sliver of China’s output and while wrong, it’s more of an ethnic cleansing issue not a cost cutting matter. It isn’t a fair example of the overall growth of China.)
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It’s been greed plain and simple. Companies did not want to invest in their own infrastructure, in this case refineries. They put off heavy maintenance, not a new one built in decades. The big manufacturers are even off loading their refineries to other companies to get them off their books.
All of this has been happening long before ESG investing came along.
All of this has been happening long before ESG investing came along.
There have been 8 brand new refineries built in the last decade.
of the older refineries.....
The #3 refinery in Lake Charles LA est. 1977 had original capacity of 6,500 B/CD Today it's capacity is 135,000B/CD(barrels per calendar day). Yes, you read that correctly! That's a 2,100% increase in capacity
The #2 refinery in Corpus Christi TX est. in 1977 had original capacity of 15,000 B/CD Today it's capacity is almost 300,000BCB That's a 2,000% increase in capacity
The #1 refinery capacity in Garyville LA est. 1976 had original capacity or 200,000 B/CD. Today it's capacity is 600,000 B/CD. That's a 300% increase in capacity.
So, with regard to," Companies did not want to invest in their own infrastructure, in this case refineries.".... I am gonna have to give your whole post 5 Pinocchio's .....IOW, total BS.
Is your post lifted from KJP White house brief?
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Just want to tap in and provide some actual facts.
There have been 8 brand new refineries built in the last decade.
of the older refineries.....
The #3 refinery in Lake Charles LA est. 1977 had original capacity of 6,500 B/CD Today it's capacity is 135,000B/CD(barrels per calendar day). Yes, you read that correctly! That's a 2,100% increase in capacity
The #2 refinery in Corpus Christi TX est. in 1977 had original capacity of 15,000 B/CD Today it's capacity is almost 300,000BCB That's a 2,000% increase in capacity
The #1 refinery capacity in Garyville LA est. 1976 had original capacity or 200,000 B/CD. Today it's capacity is 600,000 B/CD. That's a 300% increase in capacity.
So, with regard to," Companies did not want to invest in their own infrastructure, in this case refineries.".... I am gonna have to give your whole post 5 Pinocchio's .....IOW, total BS.
Is your post lifted from KJP White house brief?
There have been 8 brand new refineries built in the last decade.
of the older refineries.....
The #3 refinery in Lake Charles LA est. 1977 had original capacity of 6,500 B/CD Today it's capacity is 135,000B/CD(barrels per calendar day). Yes, you read that correctly! That's a 2,100% increase in capacity
The #2 refinery in Corpus Christi TX est. in 1977 had original capacity of 15,000 B/CD Today it's capacity is almost 300,000BCB That's a 2,000% increase in capacity
The #1 refinery capacity in Garyville LA est. 1976 had original capacity or 200,000 B/CD. Today it's capacity is 600,000 B/CD. That's a 300% increase in capacity.
So, with regard to," Companies did not want to invest in their own infrastructure, in this case refineries.".... I am gonna have to give your whole post 5 Pinocchio's .....IOW, total BS.
Is your post lifted from KJP White house brief?
Chevron CEO Mike Wirth does not expect anotheroil refinery to be built in the United States ever again, due to federal government policies. The last significant refinery built in the United States was in 1976. (A small refinery came online in 2020 in North Dakota).
There have been plenty of small
refineries built. Mostly niche refineries that refine special blends or product. Lots of those were built during the shale boom because refining shale is very difficult.
I never said they did zero investment is the last 40 years. Like I said previously times, they gotta come down and refurbish. It’s good they increased capacity, they had to. It’s a lot cheaper than building a whole new major refinery.
You still haven’t countered the initial point: refining is our bottleneck.
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