Profit Sharing Fantasy
12-18-2023, 06:58 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
And what would that do to further our union's cause? It would be much better if we worked with AFA and had them put it up at all the bases. Or Teamsters.
12-18-2023, 07:00 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Maybe you did. I voted no.
Yes. He was the anti-moakie. One of the best chairmen I've seen in my career. We could use him now.
Yes. He was the anti-moakie. One of the best chairmen I've seen in my career. We could use him now.
JM was and is a class act. Miss him around here.
12-18-2023, 07:02 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Job to put up billboard ads to tell other employees about their benefits?
12-18-2023, 07:10 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by MD88Driver
Great summary; I'd like to add that in C16 the company took away profit sharing from everyone else to pressure the pilots to negotiate away our PS. We refused, and the company added back all the other employees to their former PS plan.
I recently had an AMT that was working on my airplane ask if we "pilots" also received profit sharing like they did.....a history lesson respectfully ensued.
I recently had an AMT that was working on my airplane ask if we "pilots" also received profit sharing like they did.....a history lesson respectfully ensued.
It just looks bad to have only the union employees get what is percieved by everyone else as a "reward" (even though it really isn't, it's a negotiated benefit). The company pivoted to making everyone think profit sharing is benevolence and then doubled down and turned it into a big party/celebration on valentines day. They like the optics of this soooo much that even in a year we didn't make a profit (COVID) they still shelled out a $$ "gift" on profit sharing day to keep up the hype.
As I said, I don't like it but from a management perspective I actually think it was a brilliant idea to hijack our negotiated profit sharing benefit the way they did.
Last edited by UGBSM; 12-18-2023 at 07:24 AM.
12-18-2023, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Yes, their "benefits" only came about because of "our" negotiating PS. Nothing more. They gave nothing for it. Sad you are too dense to see it.
"The only reason you have profit sharing is because of the pilots. You're welcome" isn't an effective use of dues.
12-18-2023, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I don't see any value in spending dues money telling them that without a bigger plan like working with the Teamsters or AFA to push a union drive.
"The only reason you have profit sharing is because of the pilots. You're welcome" isn't an effective use of dues.
"The only reason you have profit sharing is because of the pilots. You're welcome" isn't an effective use of dues.
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