Will we ever see a new base?
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There is a difference, I can tell you however that the company will connect the issues. It will heavily influence future basing decisions. If you think otherwise I have some prime swampland for sale. Only small gators and the water moccasins are quite tame, trust me!
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No CEO would keep his job when the BOD asked why they didn't expand operations when the money pointed to doing so and CEO responds with "well, a few years ago the pilots were mean to me..."
#23
The company will open a new base when it makes fidiciary sense to do so.....they won't care about the rug the union pulled 6-9 years earlier with VB's.
No CEO would keep his job when the BOD asked why they didn't expand operations when the money pointed to doing so and CEO responds with "well, a few years ago the pilots were mean to me..."
No CEO would keep his job when the BOD asked why they didn't expand operations when the money pointed to doing so and CEO responds with "well, a few years ago the pilots were mean to me..."
What might work in AUS this month might change when network decides upgauge all the A220 to a mix of 320 and 737s. There goes any benefit of a base.
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The company will open a new base when it makes fidiciary sense to do so.....they won't care about the rug the union pulled 6-9 years earlier with VB's.
No CEO would keep his job when the BOD asked why they didn't expand operations when the money pointed to doing so and CEO responds with "well, a few years ago the pilots were mean to me..."
No CEO would keep his job when the BOD asked why they didn't expand operations when the money pointed to doing so and CEO responds with "well, a few years ago the pilots were mean to me..."
They also would prefer virtual bases that come at a much lower contractual cost. If DALPA starts clamoring for additional bases I am sure that they will offer to reinstate VB's with the small change that DALPA must give 6 months notice before pulling it down.
#25
You have not been here long have you. I had the CEO of the airline tell me he would shut Delta airlines down before he let us have the jumpseat. Decisions to open or close a base come down to a percentage point or less in cost and that can flip on a marketing whim. They also have nothing to do with airline expansion. Delta has a current basing structure to cover any planned growth.
They also would prefer virtual bases that come at a much lower contractual cost. If DALPA starts clamoring for additional bases I am sure that they will offer to reinstate VB's with the small change that DALPA must give 6 months notice before pulling it down.
They also would prefer virtual bases that come at a much lower contractual cost. If DALPA starts clamoring for additional bases I am sure that they will offer to reinstate VB's with the small change that DALPA must give 6 months notice before pulling it down.
I get your point, but CEO's say lots of things trying to game things. I think he was speaking to what they actually do.
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AUS has been a big 320 station for five years now with the 220 only being around post-COVID. The only reason you would see a Boeing there was because something else was broken.
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A millyun years ago we put their back to the wall on bases, their answer was that they were quite comfortable actually with operating the whole shebang out of Mecca. (shortly there after they blew the second largest base to smithereens (DFW.)
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You have not been here long have you. I had the CEO of the airline tell me he would shut Delta airlines down before he let us have the jumpseat. Decisions to open or close a base come down to a percentage point or less in cost and that can flip on a marketing whim. They also have nothing to do with airline expansion. Delta has a current basing structure to cover any planned growth.
They also would prefer virtual bases that come at a much lower contractual cost. If DALPA starts clamoring for additional bases I am sure that they will offer to reinstate VB's with the small change that DALPA must give 6 months notice before pulling it down.
They also would prefer virtual bases that come at a much lower contractual cost. If DALPA starts clamoring for additional bases I am sure that they will offer to reinstate VB's with the small change that DALPA must give 6 months notice before pulling it down.
And comparing JS access (doesn't cost the company anything so the BOD and investors couldn't care less) to potential new bases (that have the potential to drive higher revenue, profit, market share, etc) is like comparing apples to Volkswagens...it makes no sense.
You are thinking like a pilot....you need to think like an investor.
If a CEO said "I didn't open a new base to spite the pilots even though reserach shows it would increase revenue and market share by xx%", that CEO would be fired before the end of the day. Investors don't give a sh!t about the CEO's feeelings toward labor as long as the profit keep growing and the stocks keep "beating the street"
But please, keep on condescending me about how I don't know anything all because of my time on property.
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