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Old 12-28-2023, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg View Post
Lol guardrails on network. The way they change stuff, I don't ever see jetway trades being that effective. I'm for the idea and hope it works for some, just not all that confident.
agree. Why risk changing jets when network is schizophrenic
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:40 PM
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Just wondering if we’ll see something better in the future.
In my opinion, despite contrary belief, we will.

Whether it’s in the form of a virtual base, a pseudo base (through jetway trades), or an actual base, change is the only real constant.

FAs just got several temporary bases for a trial run including DFW, RDU and a few others. Far less moving parts to open their bases than ours, but it’s a step in the right direction.

The last statistic I saw showed that more than half this air line commutes. I do think as the seniors continue retiring and the new generation is hired on, we may see a discrepancy that hits a boiling point. Especially as they hire into management, union, and other roles outside the flight deck. These types of threads and conversations help grease the wheels.

The company has stated it intends to grow each year and I don’t see growth in this industry without some type of expansion. AA pulled out a large number of routes from AUS and DAL immediately swept in. They’re even going as far as connecting flights through AUS. I have a sneaking suspicion that when AUS doubles in size with its second terminal, DAL may show even more initiative. That’s just one city of the many DAL is interested in.

Lastly, BOS being teased and ultimately shut down gives a glimpse into their world that a new base is not out of the realm of possibility.

The future is looking optimistic. Just my $0.02

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any traction behind the rumored DFW FA base in the works ?
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Released View Post
In my opinion, despite contrary belief, we will.

Whether it’s in the form of a virtual base, a pseudo base (through jetway trades), or an actual base, change is the only real constant.

FAs just got several temporary bases for a trial run including DFW, RDU and a few others. Far less moving parts to open their bases than ours, but it’s a step in the right direction.

The last statistic I saw showed that more than half this air line commutes. I do think as the seniors continue retiring and the new generation is hired on, we may see a discrepancy that hits a boiling point. Especially as they hire into management, union, and other roles outside the flight deck. These types of threads and conversations help grease the wheels.

The company has stated it intends to grow each year and I don’t see growth in this industry without some type of expansion. AA pulled out a large number of routes from AUS and DAL immediately swept in. They’re even going as far as connecting flights through AUS. I have a sneaking suspicion that when AUS doubles in size with its second terminal, DAL may show even more initiative. That’s just one city of the many DAL is interested in.

Lastly, BOS being teased and ultimately shut down gives a glimpse into their world that a new base is not out of the realm of possibility.

The future is looking optimistic. Just my $0.02

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I agree. There’s zero chance that we’ll see a new base under this management team. But this team won’t be in charge forever. The next generation may or may not have a different philosophy.
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Originally Posted by hercretired View Post
any traction behind the rumored DFW FA base in the works ?
Not a rumor anymore. It opens in April. As well as LAS, TPA, PHX, and RDU.
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Old 12-29-2023, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
How much would training churn cost caused by a new base opening vs. just starting trips via a deadhead to a new base?
I’m finishing the year with 1/3 of my overnights at home and well over half a month worth of DDH credit. Heck where I commute from it’s almost too hard to imagine a QOL better if it was a base. I’d be interested to see how many BOS guys see it that way with the amount of GS with DH’s on both ends.

As much as many of us want the Texas base it’s hard to get excited if they can’t justify a Boston domicile…
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Old 12-29-2023, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by captande View Post
In my opinion Delta’s bases leave a lot to be desired. I know Boston has been rumored for years but seems dead in the water now. What about a Florida base, or RDU, or even AUS?

Just wondering if we’ll see something better in the future.
Didn't see anyone comment on FL specifically. FWIW, Flt Ops Management (including reps from Network) said as recently as the Fall Base Visits that they have 'no plans in the foreseeable future' for a FL base.

FWIW, I do think a BOS base slightly more likely than not going to be a base in the next 5 years or less. Maybe once the NEO's have been close to fully delivered, Network will stop their schizophrenia and make a decision. (Barring another black swan like the Middle East or Taiwan blowing into a hot war)
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
I would almost bet we won't have another pilot base in the next 20 years unless there's a merger. Mayybe a virtual base if we let them give that a try again.
Virtual base was negotiated and then shut down by our own union. The idea of having a physical base, with Vfiles and CPO office is so 1960's, but it keeps the company in check, otherwise they could just open/close bases at a whim or even on a seasonal base.
It's tough because of the size of the ATL base, if/when they negotiate a base in FL etc many view it as a limiting of ATL based pilots potential good deals and/or constraining their potential flying.
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Originally Posted by ancman View Post
I agree. There’s zero chance that we’ll see a new base under this management team. But this team won’t be in charge forever. The next generation may or may not have a different philosophy.
Delta is like an Elephant, they never forget. With the very last minute cancelation of the MCO virtual base I suspect it's going to take a very compelling cost basis before they open any new base.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Delta is like an Elephant, they never forget. With the very last minute cancelation of the MCO virtual base I suspect it's going to take a very compelling cost basis before they open any new base.
MCO was not a new base, it was a VB. The union had a specific right to pull down VBs, but has no say in bases.

Cmon sailing, we both know there is a huge difference
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