Hotel Kilo

Why are you are dodging? It is clear what you meant in your post. Your premise is that "most" people are ignorant becasue, in your view, they fail to understand what steep learning curve is and "misapply" it. I argue you're incorrect in your premise and that most people do understand what "steep learning" curve is by way of illustrating that me, being just a mere mortal, have a fairly decent grasp of the concept. I even provided you a textual representation of the grphical context. Most common folk I relate to, and with, seem to understand it just fine. Not sure why you are struggling with this. It's really not that difficult of a concept. I mean we're not talking linear algebra or differential equations here.

OOfff

Since you understand it and described it the same way as I did, you clearly understand that the colloquialism is counter to the original concept.

i think your irrational rage against me is making you see things that aren’t there.

Hotel Kilo

Listen you used the term "colloauialism", not me. Which last time I checked was akin to "everyday language or general parlance" which to me means you are refering to us plebes in general. E.G. we plebes don't truly "understand" what steep learning curve "really" means. I'm simply pointing out, thru example, that yes indeed we do understand what it means contra to your premise. Questions?

I get it, you like to banter to simply banter. Here, I think you've misappropriated and relegated a large segment of the populace to some form of inferior mental acumen. You're wrong. Lot's of smart folks out there. They just don't see things the way you do. Nothing wrong with that. But you keep doing you.

jaxsurf

In 2018, 12 people were hired at age 25 and below. Exactly two of them were 23 or younger.

I don’t understand this fixation that the soon-to-be-pastured have on the outliers, as if they’re representative of anything. Those few got lucky, but it means nothing statistically significant in a pilot group of almost 17,000.

I consider myself a fairly standard pre-covid non-retired military hire; joined as soon as my mil commitment was up (mid 30s) and will be an area code for a grand total of 14 months. My seniority is projected to increase by 3-5% per year (5% only on a few good years). I’ll only be able to hold WBA for 5 years total, and would retire about halfway up the 350A list.

Hardly the rocket ship for which I am supposed to atone by agreeing to ridiculous cash grabs or goalpost-shifting by the butthole inspected.

Hotel Kilo

I heard AA and UA were hiring Why be such a downer? Many would envy your position. Be thankful, move on with your life, hopefully you have a great career ahead of you with only minor speed bumps along the way.

interceptorpilo

JB: You have outlined your career here before but I forget the specifics - but haven’t you been an ER Captain/ Widebody Captain for a LONG time? As I remember it you have had what I would call a storybook career despite your lamentations.

Hotel Kilo

Not going to speak for JB - but I will. Yes, he was an ER guy for awhile. Back when I was sloggin it out on the left seat of the 88 (and loving every minute of it BTW). James is an LCP. He's been in that position for a bit. He's a really good dude - just like Timbo. I actually flew with Timbo when I was on the 777. He's a great captain, lot of fun, very professional. You'd have a great trip with him and maybe, just maybe, you'd learn a thing or 2 about how "captaining" works. We lost a derth of experience on our SL over the years (VEOP mostly). Those folks were top notch. I knew a lot of them. A lot of you folks posting here are the new breed of our group. I hope you listen to the captains like Timbo/James when they distill and subtly pass to you those nuggets of wisdom to which you will pass on. It will benefit you immensely in your future as well as the pilot group as a whole.

Some of us here have had luck, timing and health on our side. Some of us don't/didn't. However, in the end, we're all Delta pilots. We should treat each other with the respect and decency we try to maintain in our pilot group. That is one of the best things about this airline - our pilot group. Hands down one of the best out there. For you younger folks, enjoy the ride! Listen, learn and when you move to the command seat - be the example we all want you to be! It's not rocket science.

jaxsurf

I’m not being a downer. I’ve looked at the data and I accept my career trajectory. Comparison is the thief of joy, so I don’t engage in it. I recommend others do the same, so they don’t begrudge others something for which they had/have no control over.

I’m also aggressively positioning myself to retire NLT 60 (hopefully 58), so I won’t ever see WBA. Zero percent of my identity or self-worth is tied up in being a bus driver, much less a future WBA. Life is full of far more interesting things than this job.

If I had to haul fat people around and deal with airline management for 40 years, I would just blow my brains out, not hold it against people junior to me on the seniority list.

Hotel Kilo

Wow! You sound like me! Although I'm not going to make my target of 60 (already passed that red line, but not by much). I'm retiring pre-65 though. Not working any longer than that. Don't need to, don't want to really. I have lots of other things in my life I need/want to focus on.

Be well my friend and best of luck in you career here!

interceptorpilo

HK for the most part I think you are a class act and spot on with your post. Not really sure how you answered my questions for JB though.