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Old 01-20-2024 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Uhh, quite simple. Occam's razor. The company wanted it. We got nothing in return. MEC Chairman in the past have been booted for less. How DH is still the chair baffles me. Actually I know why, but I'm not going to post it here becasue I'll get another infraction.

PS -still waiting to hear what we're going to do about "the letter", you know the emergency meeting DALPA had on Oct 27th to discuss......crickets.
HK is spot on here. We got effectively nothing for something the company wanted. I don’t care who said it was somehow a good deal. They were/are wrong. Said it then. Still true.
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Old 05-24-2024 | 05:00 PM
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Did anyone else see in the latest Chairman's update from the recent MEC meeting minutes that 23.M.7 usage/documentation will be automated starting June 1st? Any know the deets on this?
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Old 05-24-2024 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
Did anyone else see in the latest Chairman's update from the recent MEC meeting minutes that 23.M.7 usage/documentation will be automated starting June 1st? Any know the deets on this?

part of the M7 agreement was that the company would create an automated report via iCrew by 02Jun, but would do it manually until then.

This automation programming will be accomplished no later than June 2, 2024. Until then, a manual report will be run daily and posted on DeltaNet for the pilot group to see.”
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Old 05-25-2024 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnnychimpo
part of the M7 agreement was that the company would create an automated report via iCrew by 02Jun, but would do it manually until then.

This automation programming will be accomplished no later than June 2, 2024. Until then, a manual report will be run daily and posted on DeltaNet for the pilot group to see.”
It's so generous of them to proactively start it a day earlier than required.
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Old 05-25-2024 | 05:18 PM
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It's so generous of them to proactively start it a day earlier than required.
well, my guess is that it will be like the “automated” short crew processing now via icrew… it’s automated, but doesn’t so what it’s actually supposed to do.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 03:26 AM
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I've caught scheduling on 23M7 many times over the last couple of years and never once have they paid automatically. You have to catch them to get paid. Pure theft.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 04:08 AM
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I've caught scheduling on 23M7 many times over the last couple of years and never once have they paid automatically. You have to catch them to get paid. Pure theft.
Just a few months ago, after the batch size settlement where they pinky promised to fill out the 23.M.7 report, I caught them not doing it. I filed two seaprate crew assist cases pointing out the error and both times the cases were closed with zero remarks.

Filed ACE report, Union saw the 23.M.7 violation, submited to the company....got the harmed pilot almost 24hrs of additional pay (albeit months later).

Theft indeed!
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Old 05-26-2024 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Just a few months ago, after the batch size settlement where they pinky promised to fill out the 23.M.7 report, I caught them not doing it. I filed two seaprate crew assist cases pointing out the error and both times the cases were closed with zero remarks.

Filed ACE report, Union saw the 23.M.7 violation, submited to the company....got the harmed pilot almost 24hrs of additional pay (albeit months later).

Theft indeed!

Wow. That’s, totally unacceptable. There has got to be punitive consequences to the company for this kind of double theft.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 06:31 AM
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I've looked at the 23.M.7. report a few times just to see how it's being reported. It seemed very short to me and I wondered how accurate it is and how can we really verify they are being done correctly? I am convinced the reporting requirement did very little. It comes down to each scheduler making an assignment to self report and there is no incentive to do that, probably a deterant to reporting if anything. I have no idea if "automating" it will catch it all when it comes down to the discretion of each individual scheduler. More intentional noncompliance in my opinion.
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Old 05-26-2024 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I've looked at the 23.M.7. report a few times just to see how it's being reported. It seemed very short to me and I wondered how accurate it is and how can we really verify they are being done correctly? I am convinced the reporting requirement did very little. It comes down to each scheduler making an assignment to self report and there is no incentive to do that, probably a deterant to reporting if anything. I have no idea if "automating" it will catch it all when it comes down to the discretion of each individual scheduler. More intentional noncompliance in my opinion.
the other thing is that the *intent* is a big part of it.

for example building a reserve rotation out of base for the proper step but covering with a white slip would not be an M7.
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