You know what grinds my gears....
01-18-2024, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by beernutt
I've never understood the Delta Air Lines mania for folding checklists. We even print lines on them to fold them on, and tailor the length of the individual checklist and it's font size to fit in the individual quadrants. An unfolded checklist fits very nicely in each fleet's respective full size checklist holder, and makes a very effective sunshade when not folded.
But Delta...
But Delta...
Because it fits nicely behind the window handle on the 717 when folded. On some of our 717s, the "checklist holder" isn't there which means you get to go on a scavenger hunt to find the QRH. If we put the checklists there, that would be one more thing to find.
Originally Posted by cornbeef007
We are pretty much the only airline that does this…there is a reason for that. It’s not because it’s better.
Why is it then? Nearly every checklist I actually read is short enough to fit on a quarter of the page. On my fleet, a few different checklists fit on a single quarter section. Why would I need to unfold it to a half page? What is the desire to have them half fold other than thr 737 checklist holder? I've flown the 737, so I get that. This is an interesting thing to be bothered by lol.
01-18-2024, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Because it fits nicely behind the window handle on the 717 when folded. On some of our 717s, the "checklist holder" isn't there which means you get to go on a scavenger hunt to find the QRH. If we put the checklists there, that would be one more thing to find.
Why is it then? Nearly every checklist I actually read is short enough to fit on a quarter of the page. On my fleet, a few different checklists fit on a single quarter section. Why would I need to unfold it to a half page? What is the desire to have them half fold other than thr 737 checklist holder? I've flown the 737, so I get that. This is an interesting thing to be bothered by lol.
Why is it then? Nearly every checklist I actually read is short enough to fit on a quarter of the page. On my fleet, a few different checklists fit on a single quarter section. Why would I need to unfold it to a half page? What is the desire to have them half fold other than thr 737 checklist holder? I've flown the 737, so I get that. This is an interesting thing to be bothered by lol.
Is quarter folding a faux pas of some kind? If so, that sounds like a very strange thing to consider a faux pas, especially since there are bigger fish to fry! Indeed, a very interesting thing to be bothered by.
Not once, ever, did I consciously feel bothered or upset by the checklist being folded in the way it is. Never ever thought about it before.
01-18-2024, 04:30 AM
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The quartered checklist works well in the Airbus fleet. It fits nicely in the small cubby under the EFB mount. And in the absence of a yoke I can shove it between the bottom piece of the folding tray and the sliding mount.
01-18-2024, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
I was wondering the same thing! Came from a mil background, so my view is limited.
Is quarter folding a faux pas of some kind? If so, that sounds like a very strange thing to consider a faux pas, especially since there are bigger fish to fry! Indeed, a very interesting thing to be bothered by.
Not once, ever, did I consciously feel bothered or upset by the checklist being folded in the way it is. Never ever thought about it before.
Is quarter folding a faux pas of some kind? If so, that sounds like a very strange thing to consider a faux pas, especially since there are bigger fish to fry! Indeed, a very interesting thing to be bothered by.
Not once, ever, did I consciously feel bothered or upset by the checklist being folded in the way it is. Never ever thought about it before.
My hill to die on is, if guys take the time to zero out the transponder after they land they should also take the millisecond to fold the checklist back so it's Preflight on the front instead of leaving it in the Shutdown fold.
01-18-2024, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
I've seen a full page checklist at my regional but it was not formatted in a way that you could fold it like this, so yeah folding it was 100% not a thing. I actually like this set up. It's small and compact.
My hill to die on is, if guys take the time to zero out the transponder after they land they should also take the millisecond to fold the checklist back so it's Preflight on the front instead of leaving it in the Shutdown fold.
My hill to die on is, if guys take the time to zero out the transponder after they land they should also take the millisecond to fold the checklist back so it's Preflight on the front instead of leaving it in the Shutdown fold.
01-18-2024, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Trash Panda and Canabus pilots feeling left out.
01-18-2024, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
I'm pretty sure the reason the 350 and the 220 are more efficient is that they lack the Tolstoy "War and Peace" voluminous sized QRH which is a CG changer in and of itself but then more so as one adds rainwater/Safewing® MP IV LAUNCH to the equation and that thing swells up to have its own area code. 😁
01-18-2024, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Word on the street is the 320 is gonna ditch the QRH some time this year
01-18-2024, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
320 LCPs don’t advocate it bc it’s so much more work and higher threat if you input it all wrong vs simply PAYING ATTENTION and Pressing managed descent 5-10 prior TOD.
The entire exercise mentioned in prior posts is for lazy PFs who don’t want to actually attention.
The entire exercise mentioned in prior posts is for lazy PFs who don’t want to actually attention.
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