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Old 03-01-2024, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52 View Post
I thought all the propellers were sent to Endeavor to cut the line to "mainline" . Do they send propel to SkyWest as well ?
lol, they've never been required to go to a specfic carrier. typcial endeavor pilot misinformation about propel. and they don't "send" them there. regionals are an option.
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Old 03-01-2024, 03:48 PM
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Currently a regional FO based in ORD and absolutely love living in Chicago. However, I am a member of the propel program so I am extremely fortunate to have a qualified job offer with DL…would I be better off applying to UA or AA so I can stay based in Chicago, or is DL a good enough company to justify a commute? It sounds like you guys get tons of time off compared to what I’m getting now, and if I had to get a hotel in MSP or DTW every now and then it doesn’t seem like that would really break the bank. I have family in Ohio within driving distance to DTW who I could stay with if needed. Then again, I know my ability to pick up premium would be restricted…and yes I know commuting would definitely be a step down compared to living in base. But I absolutely love DL as a company and would hate to abandon the propel program only to regret it down the road. Should I give the commute a shot and if it sucks that bad then apply to UA or AA? Or should I just send out my apps now? Thanks for your input.
I lived in Ord while I was in a regional. It’s a good city to live while you’re young. The question is….

Do you want to make your whole life in Chicago? In my case it was a no. So I commute out of FL for Delta.

As much as I loved living there in my 20s, I don’t miss it. It’s a good memory of my life and I’m happy where I am.

Commuting is a choice, living in base is also a choice. It just depends how much you can tolerate. Also, how long before you get a call from DL for a class?
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Old 03-01-2024, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 View Post
I lived in Ord while I was in a regional. It’s a good city to live while you’re young. The question is….

Do you want to make your whole life in Chicago? In my case it was a no. So I commute out of FL for Delta.

As much as I loved living there in my 20s, I don’t miss it. It’s a good memory of my life and I’m happy where I am.

Commuting is a choice, living in base is also a choice. It just depends how much you can tolerate. Also, how long before you get a call from DL for a class?

Currently looking like another 1.5-2 years before I get a DL class according to what my mentor has been telling me...might also be a case to apply for AA/UA. I know guys getting hired there with about the same amount of SIC time I have now. 2 years of mainline seniority sounds significant but not sure if that's worth basing such a huge career choice on. Not hurting for money or anything now with the new regional pay rates and I enjoy living in base so there's really no big rush to leave.
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Originally Posted by junglejetjockey View Post
Don't have an offer from either...haven't sent any apps out yet. I feel like it would be next to impossible to get an interview with Delta if I left the propel program, so I'm hesitant to apply elsewhere without at least seeing if commuting is feasible or not. There's loads of flights between ORD/MDW and DTW/MSP/ATL so it doesn't seem like the worst commute in the world, but honestly I'm sure it sucks compared to living in base.
My situation precludes me from offering a useful thumbs up or down to the worth of an ORD commute for Delta, but I will share an observation of experience. I have been commuting out of ORD recently, as I have family there with a need of my presence. It's very short term and temporary, plus the city pair is non-traditional: ORD-SEA. 2 flights a day on Delta, 4 on Alaska, and 2 or 3 each on AA and UA. So far I have been 100% on-line, with booked XCM and/or S3 standby. I have not perceived any commuter competition. FWIW, the 220 fleet seems to dominate ORD layovers, but sometimes it switches up to 320 and 737. Good luck with offers and your decision.
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Originally Posted by junglejetjockey View Post
Currently looking like another 1.5-2 years before I get a DL class according to what my mentor has been telling me...might also be a case to apply for AA/UA. I know guys getting hired there with about the same amount of SIC time I have now. 2 years of mainline seniority sounds significant but not sure if that's worth basing such a huge career choice on. Not hurting for money or anything now with the new regional pay rates and I enjoy living in base so there's really no big rush to leave.
2 more years? How long have you been in the program?
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Old 03-01-2024, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
lol, they've never been required to go to a specfic carrier. typcial endeavor pilot misinformation about propel. and they don't "send" them there. regionals are an option.
. Um I think it was originally a Delta connection carrier or WO Endeavor but it may have changed. Who knows , it's all BS anyway that shouldn't be allowed by ALPA . At least old school ALPA Would have a set of kahunas that wouldn't allow it
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Always work for the Big-3 / Legacy in your hometown.

Period the end.

In your case, you have AA and UA.

in light of all the "catch up" pay stuff and matching rates etc, any differences amongst Big-3 / Legacy will be overweighed by driving to work
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:07 PM
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Always work for the Big-3 / Legacy in your hometown.

Period the end.
This. DL is great, but its definitely not worth commuting out of a UA/AA/WN base for the rest of your life (assuming both options are available, also assuming you don't want to leave ORD)

But, if you decide DL is the end goal for whatever reason, going through UA/AA/WN is a fantastic resume boost!

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Never hold out for a certain airline, lest the aviation gods will smite thee. Its like they know you only have 1 app in. Go to Delta, United or AA will call shortly after.
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Dont hold out!! The best thing I did for my "forever home" legacy career path was saying "eff it" and going to a different legacy. And, even if my forever home hadn't called... commuting to a legacy was very gentlemanly compared to other flying jobs.
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I would apply to DL, and then keep your stuff active at the places with the base where you live. If you get the new gig, go and never look back.

Not commuting will add years to your life and cash in your pocket.
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Originally Posted by overqualified52 View Post
. Um I think it was originally a Delta connection carrier or WO Endeavor but it may have changed. Who knows , it's all BS anyway that shouldn't be allowed by ALPA . At least old school ALPA Would have a set of kahunas that wouldn't allow it
Crybaby52 at it again. “Cut the line” lol.

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