Deaf Leopard t-shirt, nice slacks, and flip-flops. As usual.

Collared Deaf Leopard t-shirt, of course.

 

Yes, I figured it was their hand mics, but I have no idea.

 

Speaking of jumpseat stuff. Just a curious question on why Delta would not take any jumpseaters at all (prior to 2000 IIRC). I know my company and many others would take a Delta pilot in the jumpseat but for years nobody could get one on them. I also remember there was a nepotism policy. Rumor had it 20/20 vision requirement among others. Not try to rile anyone up just trying to get some history from any longtime Delta folks.

 

Not a rumor about 20/20 vision, (1996) I got a letter back saying I wasn't qualified because I wore glasses, got hired at NWA and here now anyway.

 

The original "rationale" for a no JS policy was supposedly because it wasn't a benefit they could offer all the employees so nobody could have it.
Of course if the company needed a pilot somewhere and the jet was full they'd sure as hell put you there!
After the shuttering of the DFW base created hundreds of commuters (those Texans weren't about to leave the lone star state) the company slowly and begrudgingly loosened the reins on the JS. First with some very draconian restriction and eventually to industry standard.
Also back then Delta was VERY anti-commuting.

 

Just a hunch, but it might be because a lot of us, except those on the Guppy, use the ship Minitels. Those are going away and being replaced as needed though, so we should be emerging from the cave soon.

 

Mostly correct, but not entirely. To summarize:

1. For years, Delta refused to offer the pilot jumpseat even to their own pilots, much less any other pilot group. This stemmed from a very toxic, anti-pilot mindset from the CEO on down. "If everyone can't have it, then no one can," "nobody forces you to commute" etc. This was also in the days of horrible contractual language, such as, you only got a hotel for qualification training "away from your base." So if you were an MCO-ATL commuter, and were going from M88 to 767, for example, it was all done in a crashpad at your expense. It was so ludicrous, to use the prior example, let's say you were going from CVG 88B to ATL 767B, if your training spanned more than one calendar month, and you converted on the first day of the second month (while still in training) the company would literally kick you out of the hotel at the end of the first month, because now you were ATL-based in month two, and "no one forces you to commute." (we eventually fixed that hotel language years later, so now it is pretty good)

2. We secured "industry standard jumpseat" with our 96 contract. It was mostly concessionary, but we at least got that! (disclaimer: I was hired early 97, so we already had the contract ratified long before I was hired).

3. The jumpseat has been pretty standard ever since. We actually didn't close the DFW base until the mid-2000s, so the two really aren't related.

 

Thanks for the discussion and explanations on those ancient policies. Heard rumor but nobody could answer regarding the details. Glad that's long ago! Any of y'all are welcome on my jumpseat (Alaska) even in jeans. But not paired with a AC/DC T shirt.🤣

 

Those were the days, commuter uniform; Sport coat and tie and a pocket full of half fares.

 

Now Delta pilots even have access to open cabin JS's which some carriers apparently don't even allow to their pilots. Funny how the dynamic has changed over the years!