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Old 05-06-2024 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
Not a commuter (anymore), I want capital spent on improved commuting.

I use tricare, I want capital spent on improving the health insurance.

I think there’s a silent majority that are likeminded.
Agreed
Neither of those things currently benefit me, but they benefit the group. I think they are worthwhile.
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Old 05-06-2024 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 180ToAJ
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Neither of those things currently benefit me, but they benefit the group. I think they are worthwhile.
Don’t benefit you directly, but no one ever looks at 2nd and 3rd order affects (effects?? IDK I fly jets) Improve commuter QOL, higher percent of commuters, more short notice greenies for those living in base. Health benefits guarantee until Medicare kicks in, more guys leave prior to 65, we all move up faster.

Just some deep thoughts, not addressed to anyone in particular. Yes I’m a commuter. Not on delta health care, tricare.
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Old 05-06-2024 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Don’t benefit you directly, but no one ever looks at 2nd and 3rd order affects (effects?? IDK I fly jets) Improve commuter QOL, higher percent of commuters, more short notice greenies for those living in base. Health benefits guarantee until Medicare kicks in, more guys leave prior to 65, we all move up faster.

Just some deep thoughts, not addressed to anyone in particular. Yes I’m a commuter. Not on delta health care, tricare.
Merriam-Webster: Affect is usually a verb meaning "to produce an effect upon," as in "the weather affected his mood." Effect is usually a noun meaning "a change that results when something is done or happens," as in "computers have had a huge effect on our lives."

My wife beat me up with this one while proofreading some of my college papers. Like you, I fly jets.
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Old 05-06-2024 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs
Merriam-Webster: Affect is usually a verb meaning "to produce an effect upon," as in "the weather affected his mood." Effect is usually a noun meaning "a change that results when something is done or happens," as in "computers have had a huge effect on our lives."

My wife beat me up with this one while proofreading some of my college papers. Like you, I fly jets.
I won’t remember but thanks! So I think I wanted effects. Potato potato…..
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Old 05-06-2024 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
At a minimum, we need to match AAL’s clause in the next cycle.
I'm unfamiliar--what do they have?
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Old 05-06-2024 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
I'm unfamiliar--what do they have?
AAL’s clause is one flight to work, on ANY airline, with no backup required. No minimum buffers between flights, minimum seat availability, or any of the other nonsense that our 23.X language requires.

As a bonus, their clause covers pilots who live in base as well, should they have a flat tire or other transit issue impeding their ability to get to work. Theirs doesn’t mention discipline for “excessive” use, as ours does.

There aren’t many contractual areas in which AA surpasses us, but when it comes to their commuter clause they have us beat by a mile.
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Old 05-07-2024 | 06:21 AM
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I want some form of positive space travel as a non comuter because the non revenue travel benefit has become worthless. If that is tied to positive space comuting, I'm fine with that.
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Old 05-07-2024 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I want some form of positive space travel as a non comuter because the non revenue travel benefit has become worthless. If that is tied to positive space comuting, I'm fine with that.
Not worthless to us. Just pointing that out. Still would love positive space in addition.
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Old 05-07-2024 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
Not required
The FOM does not specifically say "shirt with a collar" but all of the shirts listed as acceptable have collars.

Consevative, or casual dress shirts have collars. Oxford style button down shirts have collars. Dress camp shirts have collars. And yes, Turtlenecks and mock turtleneck shirts have a collar.

So yes, you need to wear a collared shirt here at Delta Air Lines, the same as it has been for decades.
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Old 05-07-2024 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company actually requested a LOA to lower pilot pay 5% prior to the contract after they cut all non contract pay 5%. We basically agreed if we could have a industry standard jumpseat. The company refused. We ended up asking for a Delta pilot only internal jumpseat and still the company said no. I was a recently displaced pilot soon to be commuting and Ron Allen stopped in our training class during a break. I asked why we could not get a jumpseat as it would be a big benefit with the displacements happening. He put his finger in my chest and replied that he would shut Delta down before he would give us the jumpseat. I knew then we were in deep trouble with a CEO with that thought process!
Yeah, that sounds exactly like Ron Allen. Im sure he had an orgasm when he was able to furlough Delta pilots in 1993. He sent out no-notice immediate furlough letters and then had to walk it back as the contract required a 60 day notice.

To be fair though, the no jumpseat policy preceded Ron Allen. He just refused to change with the times like every other airline had done.
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