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08-21-2024 | 11:04 AM

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We used Lido at my last job. Charts were clear, properly colored, easy to read, and human factor-centric. Jeppesen could take a page out of their playbook.

Agreed. Jepps are totally non-standardized. Random speeds all over the place on arrivals and approaches. LIDOS were much better and designed for an EFB. Jepps were designed for paper (and not well).

08-21-2024 | 01:06 PM

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Agreed. Jepps are totally non-standardized. Random speeds all over the place on arrivals and approaches. LIDOS were much better and designed for an EFB. Jepps were designed for paper (and not well).

Agreed. I actually preferred LIDOS even when we had them in paper and they took twice the space of Jepps.

08-21-2024 | 01:18 PM

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Agreed. I actually preferred LIDOS even when we had them in paper and they took twice the space of Jepps.

Yep. My only complaint was having to unfold and scan the LIDOs. I'd love to see these on the EFB. The ability to zoom/scroll would make those amazing.

08-21-2024 | 01:28 PM

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Yep. My only complaint was having to unfold and scan the LIDOs. I'd love to see these on the EFB. The ability to zoom/scroll would make those amazing.

Yeah, it was actually formatted for zooming and a digital display. I bet they're cheaper than jepps too.. but that's just a guess based on the bottom feeder regionals who used them.

08-21-2024 | 02:44 PM

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Yeah, it was actually formatted for zooming and a digital display. I bet they're cheaper than jepps too.. but that's just a guess based on the bottom feeder regionals who used them.

I think FedEx has them too. At least that was the rumor when Pinnacle switched to them.

08-21-2024 | 04:26 PM

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LIDO was originally an Airbus product (IIRC). I wonder, with our relationship with the non-airplane side of Airbus (Navblu, other apps) if we could get a discount on LIDO. ???

08-21-2024 | 05:22 PM

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Yep. My only complaint was having to unfold and scan the LIDOs. I'd love to see these on the EFB. The ability to zoom/scroll would make those amazing.

Jeppesen digital products have been vector graphics for decades. The software (whether Jepp FD Pro or ForeFlight) has a data string describing what to draw and then draws them.

08-21-2024 | 06:59 PM

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LIDO was originally an Airbus product (IIRC). I wonder, with our relationship with the non-airplane side of Airbus (Navblu, other apps) if we could get a discount on LIDO. ???

Believe it’s actually a Lufthansa product.

08-21-2024 | 07:42 PM

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Jeppesen digital products have been vector graphics for decades. The software (whether Jepp FD Pro or ForeFlight) has a data string describing what to draw and then draws them.

AMM and the enroute map yeah, but I'm pretty sure the plates are just PDFs, which is why updates take so long and the whole thing is so slow.