you’re welcome for delivering these benefits for you

 

Bid the base that has the benefits you want. If you don't want to live there, commute. It's a choice.

The last few pages sound like "I want to drive to work, Delta should be required to put a base where I live".

 

They are more than welcome to open a FL base. Non of this blue things exist down there and plenty of pilots live closed by.

 

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AUS

 

October passed…no AUS 🤣

 

No one is against a state using their tax model to provide benefits. This isn’t about that at all. No state is using their state tax revenue so workers can use company provided collective bargaining benefits differently.

No one is against you having that benefit either. But since it comes 100% from the cost of our PWA and 0% from your state taxes, then we need a PWA provision saying what one base gets we all get from the PWA benefit package itself.

If your state wanted to fund a family sick benefit of a million dollars a year tax free with no verification, they are free to do so as well as free to fund it. But that’s not what this is. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the tax model in your state.

We have a CBA and its benefits that we all pay equally for to generate should be equally accessible to us all.

Beyond that, your state is free to lavish its residents with whatever state funded benefit it wants. Our sick allotment should be able to be used equally in all bases as states don’t fund it at all, we all do.

 

I see your point. I look forward to my free positive space passes when commuters get the PS win. I'm liking your equality for all approach.

 

Not at all a correct assessment.

BES pays the same in all bases. Per diem pays the same. International override pays the same in all bases. Vacation allotment is the same in all bases. The meal expense amount for missed crew meals is the same in all bases. Silver Slip pay is the same in all bases. Quarterly learning pays the same run time in all bases. All of that and a million more things come equally from our PWA that we all have equal access to in every base.

This isn’t an issue of state taxes at all. That is irrelevant. It isn’t “red” or “blue” either so no one should get defensive about their personal preferred politics.

We pay equally for our sick allotment come PWA time. It is one of many contractual provisions that we all should have equal access to. A PWA clause to such an effect is long past due. No one is trying to take yours away. Why would you begrudge anyone else the same benefit that the company has to pay, not your state?

The Company is free to open and close bases as per their cost benefit analysis. However

 

so negotiate for a contract that has state sick/kin care, rather than relying on the vagaries of state law differences.


also, you have the same allotment and same verification thresholds as someone with state sick/kin care, so you’re “paying” no more or less than they are

 

Not sure what your point here is. All pilots in all bases would theoretically get PS if it were enshrined in our PWA. So commuting or not would still be equal if that was a benefit those who chose to do it got. Commuting pilots have to have a backup and get in a set time prior. Your flawed analogy would be akin to requiring all driving pilots to have a back up ride and two hours between and all the other provisions. That would be equally silly.

Your entire point has shifted from your state’s irrelevant tax structure to a contextually flawed comparison of commuters and local pilots.

There are different benefits for reserves and line holders for many things. But their access is equal among all pilots in all bases contingent on their relative seniority. The same is true for many other areas. That is not at all the same as this.

That said, if we want to provide unlimited PS for all pilots and we chose to have that cost item in our PWA then that’s fine. That said, I doubt we will see PS commuting in the first place. However if we did, you as a local (I assume, based on the structure of your argument) would equally get that benefit if you commuted to any other base for any reason from displacement to sport bidding to chasing other BES opportunities. Many others in your state likely already do that, and they would get PS commuting as well if it were offered.