Originally Posted by TALPAtalker

Half of their problem is the total abandonment of the traditional Section 23 coverage ladders. They seem not to realize that many of their “reserves” were actually line holders picking up WS trips. As the month went on, those would become short-notice GS trips. If you don’t run WS coverage, a lot of pilots are sitting home because they simply aren’t being called.

Specifically regarding GS, to the extent they’d ever run that step regularly again, many actual reserves are ineligible for them due to this wildly stupid “pre-posted rest” program. They put cancelation codes in for flights that blame pilot staffing, while many reserves sit unused at home, with GS slips in, and are not even getting a call because they are “on rest,” having worked precisely 0 hours before the “rest” was assigned.

What we’re left with is a situation where people are happy earning just the reserve guarantee, or the minimum LCW on a regular line, and riding it out. We have discussed at length how ridiculous the 23M7/IA/CNO debacle has been, so there is no need to rehash why that is not a solution to this problem.

All of this speaks volumes about our leadership, or lack thereof. “But but but…Crew 360!…The Asterisk!…Auto-Accept!…Pods!…We’re Smart!” They yell all this while burning a rumored $100m a month on a clearly failed experiment. Even for a profitable company, that type of egregious decision making should mandate a significant shake up.

Originally Posted by crewdawg

For sure there will continue to be new hires going there, you have to keep the category decently staffed to the end. I think newhires were getting M88 awards until just shortly before we shut down that category. Not saying it's shutting down soon, but fewer awards make sense. Yesterday's AE was another -11 for the DTW717B. A side was -5, with the only award being a base transfer.

Originally Posted by tripled

any idea why so few 717 awards?

Originally Posted by gloopy

A or B? It’s a small stagnant category anyway and almost no one will bid the B side for sure. Those positions only exist to be filled by NH’s.

Originally Posted by Podrick

A side, lots bid out the last few AE's but they haven't awarded any new A's.

I'm sure someone smarter on here can explain but after this AE ATL73NA appears overstaffed by 100, and DTW320A overstaffed by 40.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

How are you getting your overstaffed number

Originally Posted by Podrick

Quick glance at A vs B, as well as the June 2026 staffing projection to account for future new hire B’s.

The staffing projection isn’t always accurate, but most categories seem to add up, but DTW320 and ATL73N seem off. I’m also only looking at widgetseniority, so maybe there’s something wrong with the data.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

Can't look at A vs B because that's where they are putting new hires

Originally Posted by gloopy

A or B? It’s a small stagnant category anyway and almost no one will bid the B side for sure. Those positions only exist to be filled by NH’s.

Originally Posted by DryClutch

A few AE's ago, I saw a guy go ATL 320B to 717B. Was kinda scratching my head on that one. Be interesting to know his reasoning.