Prepare Yourselves... 2026 AEs
02-04-2026 | 05:25 AM
#261
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Get your bids in, you can’t get what you don’t bid for…
02-04-2026 | 05:26 AM
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Sorry, you’re right. But then that begs the question, why are people going back into iCrew and bidding for a seat they already hold?
I’ve been told by very smart people that the pilots who do this think having a bid for the seat they already hold will protect them from a displacement. Which is FALSE!
Pilots should take pilot count on icrew with a grain of salt. The counts are overinflated because of pilots who are submitting an AE for a position they already have.
I’ve been told by very smart people that the pilots who do this think having a bid for the seat they already hold will protect them from a displacement. Which is FALSE!
Pilots should take pilot count on icrew with a grain of salt. The counts are overinflated because of pilots who are submitting an AE for a position they already have.
Say you are 320 at 40%, and that’s your top bid, but of you slide backwards below 40% and your second line is 320 40% at another base or 737 40% in your base? Just spitballing here.
02-04-2026 | 05:45 AM
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I guess it would be a bid where you want to change seats if certain qualifiers are met and you don’t meet a qualifier in your seat anymore?
Say you are 320 at 40%, and that’s your top bid, but of you slide backwards below 40% and your second line is 320 40% at another base or 737 40% in your base? Just spitballing here.
Say you are 320 at 40%, and that’s your top bid, but of you slide backwards below 40% and your second line is 320 40% at another base or 737 40% in your base? Just spitballing here.
I also know of several people who got a surprise award, who didn’t remember that years earlier, they had put in an optimistic bid and forgot all about it. Oops…
02-04-2026 | 07:03 AM
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I have to two questions for this AE:
For the 22D3 stuff, is it like the AE where they can put out a number but have no obligation to meet that number? If so, what is even the point of paying attention to the jump for 2026?
And for hiring for the MAX, why would we hire for it at all? We are going to be winding down the 717 and 7ER, would they not just put those pilots on the MAX as they wind down those fleet? I don’t really see very much NB growth at all going forward.
For the 22D3 stuff, is it like the AE where they can put out a number but have no obligation to meet that number? If so, what is even the point of paying attention to the jump for 2026?
And for hiring for the MAX, why would we hire for it at all? We are going to be winding down the 717 and 7ER, would they not just put those pilots on the MAX as they wind down those fleet? I don’t really see very much NB growth at all going forward.
02-04-2026 | 07:10 AM
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I haven't dug deep enough to determine that all past 22D3 reporting has merit to what actually happened, but my feeling is that it's probably fairly consistent with what actually occurred.
EDIT: Here's a chart that's the same as I posted above, with the addition of our actual seniority list at the projected dates.
I definitely see at least SOME correlation.
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02-04-2026 | 07:45 AM
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Sure, though I imagine "good faith" is involved. It is a forecast, not necessarily a target.
I haven't dug deep enough to determine that all past 22D3 reporting has merit to what actually happened, but my feeling is that it's probably fairly consistent with what actually occurred.
EDIT: Here's a chart that's the same as I posted above, with the addition of our actual seniority list at the projected dates.
I definitely see at least SOME correlation.
I haven't dug deep enough to determine that all past 22D3 reporting has merit to what actually happened, but my feeling is that it's probably fairly consistent with what actually occurred.
EDIT: Here's a chart that's the same as I posted above, with the addition of our actual seniority list at the projected dates.
I definitely see at least SOME correlation.
Also I was just curious if anyone knows if there is any statistically significant switching from one NB to another or if those bids are generally based driven.
02-04-2026 | 07:53 AM
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Why is the projected number so much lower than the target? If they wanted to lower number wouldn't that be easy to meet with attrition?
Also I was just curious if anyone knows if there is any statistically significant switching from one NB to another or if those bids are generally based driven.
Also I was just curious if anyone knows if there is any statistically significant switching from one NB to another or if those bids are generally based driven.
It would be cool to have the covid projection overlayed with the actual numbers. That one was wayyy low.
02-04-2026 | 07:59 AM
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my understanding is projected has no slop for pilots moving to other roles like SLI, management, MLOA, sick leave and other leaves. it is the absolute bare minimum they could operate the airline with. It was also the number they attempted to use to scare us into concessions during the pandemic.
02-04-2026 | 08:26 AM
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Hiring for MAX really isn't baked in, this is hiring to maintain actual relevant numbers of pilots, where we should have been at over a year ago (save attrition). Neither is NEO lie flat.
This only changed because the bean counters hit the button when they saw the numbers, and the numbers were significant for them to act.
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