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Old 02-11-2026 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
There's an interesting Flight Ops "Approach," podcast about fleet plans.

It looks the 787's will fit size-wise between the A350-900 and -1000, but will not have the range. It will be used in thicker hub-to-"hub" markets in Europe/SA, allowing the 330-900's to fly thinner routes and explore new markets (what the ER does now.)

Also, they're going to try DPS seating as FC on the new 321-neo's rather than have the aircraft grounded waiting on D1 suites.
They also said the 787 is a replacement for the 764 in the mid 30s and that they view the 763 as a 'better' XLR for the thin/exploratory routes.

Sure sounded like they're backtracking on no ER across the pond after '24, '25, '26..., or finally admitting what I always thought they meant: no ER across the pond ^from ATL^ after '24, '25, '26 ...
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Old 02-11-2026 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
If DPS stands Delta Premium Select (currently only on WB), then it is a step up from the NEO.
It does and Im very familiar with it as its on the 330. It’s the Collins MiQ seat which is just a standard recliner. The new first class seat on the 321neo and some 738s has a fixed shell around the seat and privacy wings.

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Old 02-12-2026 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
The new first class seat on the 321neo and some 738s has a fixed shell around the seat and privacy wings.
And very little padding.
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Old 02-12-2026 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
It does and Im very familiar with it as its on the 330. It’s the Collins MiQ seat which is just a standard recliner. The new first class seat on the 321neo and some 738s has a fixed shell around the seat and privacy wings.

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The FC seats on the 321NEO are absolute trash. Biggest complaints according to NPS. They’re actually in the process of getting new seats for those too.
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Old 02-12-2026 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
The FC seats on the 321NEO are absolute trash. Biggest complaints according to NPS. They’re actually in the process of getting new seats for those too.
Not doubting you, but where did you hear they are replacing those hard seats? Just going forward, or actually retrofitting delivered aircraft?
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Old 02-12-2026 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
The FC seats on the 321NEO are absolute trash. Biggest complaints according to NPS. They’re actually in the process of getting new seats for those too.
This was true initially, I believe they replaced the padding in the cushions, not the entire seat itself and that solved the problem.
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Old 02-12-2026 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Puddytatt
And very little padding.
I believe they fixed that problem with new cushions, but yes it was a problem initially.
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Old 02-12-2026 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Puddytatt
And very little padding.
And the headrest wings and mini-center divider make it difficult to get up from a window seat to use the restroom if you are not young, thin, and nimble, especially if the seat in front of you is reclined and/or the passenger in the aisle seat is sleeping. I guess they may appeal to some, including the executives who picked them out, but like the Business Class mini-cubicles (coffins?) on American's new 321XLR's, they will not appeal to anyone prone to claustrophobia. https://onemileatatime.com/insights/...usiness-class/
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Old 02-12-2026 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
The FC seats on the 321NEO are absolute trash. Biggest complaints according to NPS. They’re actually in the process of getting new seats for those too.
Honestly the fancy new DLOne suites have similar issues, very hard and too upright (think wooden 50s school chair vibes) when in t/o and landing full up. While they look very nice, it seems obvious that whoever approved them has never flown longhaul on F/J or even done a cursory look at our competitors. AAs J seats are more comfortable, and UA and BA (new suites) have a significantly more comfortable seat in J: somewhat pre-reclined in upright and cloth with more give and cushion vs the hard fake leather.
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Old 02-12-2026 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
I believe they fixed that problem with new cushions, but yes it was a problem initially.
I sat in one recently for several hours. I guess our diffinition of fixed isn't the same.
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