Unity of Purpose
04-03-2026 | 01:39 PM
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Because we are at war with an oil producing country. It serves our best interest to get this done as fast as possible as long as the terms are right. If the terms aren't right, there is significantly more risk now than a year ago of economic conditions not supporting our ask. But, as the email clearly said, if the company wants to play hardball, we will be forced to drag things out (read: 23m7 300% pain for years).
Sounds similar to the whole not pay-banding certain fleets because "they won't be around much longer."
Not to mention we've been at war with oil producing countries for...how many decades now?
04-03-2026 | 01:49 PM
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+1. We really are in the drivers seat. I understand reluctance to use our leverage, but an early contract with big gains puts UA under the gun to pattern bargain and leapfrog us.
04-03-2026 | 01:51 PM
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Weren't we in a hurry to sign the last contract because "the economy is going to tank any minute, let's lock this in."
Sounds similar to the whole not pay-banding certain fleets because "they won't be around much longer."
Not to mention we've been at war with oil producing countries for...how many decades now?
Sounds similar to the whole not pay-banding certain fleets because "they won't be around much longer."
Not to mention we've been at war with oil producing countries for...how many decades now?
And no, some energy experts predict that 20-30% of oil infrastructure has been destroyed in the middle east. I think you'll find it hard to find a comparison for this level of damage to energy infrastructure in the last 50 years.
And for the record, I'm not suggesting we rush to an agreement. Just that it's in our best interest to not drag out negotiations unnecessarily in the event this conflict isn't wrapped up as quickly as is being advertised
04-03-2026 | 01:56 PM
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04-03-2026 | 02:22 PM
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Lol get Cook to fix my auto fill then and make it fill grammatically correct. Since you probably double as an apple engineer, advisor to the BOD etc etc
Also I will on occasion misspell or misuse words because it's like trolling for Breezy. Always get a bite.
Also I will on occasion misspell or misuse words because it's like trolling for Breezy. Always get a bite.
04-03-2026 | 02:25 PM
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the nuances here are the company really really wants something and our MEC/NC are measuring and tempering their public messaging
This like what your second contract here?
04-03-2026 | 02:30 PM
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We paused negotiating during the last contract because of COVID which was absolutely the right thing to do. And we rushed to sign an agreement because United and American were about to bend our leverage over a barrel. Our last contract has absolutely nothing to do with any economy tanking. In fact, the economy was roaring back when we signed.
And no, some energy experts predict that 20-30% of oil infrastructure has been destroyed in the middle east. I think you'll find it hard to find a comparison for this level of damage to energy infrastructure in the last 50 years.
And for the record, I'm not suggesting we rush to an agreement. Just that it's in our best interest to not drag out negotiations unnecessarily in the event this conflict isn't wrapped up as quickly as is being advertised
And no, some energy experts predict that 20-30% of oil infrastructure has been destroyed in the middle east. I think you'll find it hard to find a comparison for this level of damage to energy infrastructure in the last 50 years.
And for the record, I'm not suggesting we rush to an agreement. Just that it's in our best interest to not drag out negotiations unnecessarily in the event this conflict isn't wrapped up as quickly as is being advertised
Only you could contort some very basic messaging from the MEC into rambling babble of your distrorted economic understanding.
04-03-2026 | 02:33 PM
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