Openers today?
04-20-2026 | 05:06 PM
#381
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IMO we either get a TA within the next 2 weeks or nothing for at least 18 months. Signs are continuing to emerge of deep distress in jet fuel supply
04-20-2026 | 05:19 PM
#382
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04-20-2026 | 05:22 PM
#383
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nothing directed to you GL.. but at what point does something become “important” enough to go out to MEMRAT?
In my cynical view.. what is stopping the NC from saying “we can’t get a quick TA.. but the company shows interest in an MOU”?
there’s nothing stopping the MEC from passing that before we ever get to see what’s in it (ala Quick Slips)
there wasn’t nearly enough angst from the pilot group about HOW that was done.. whether or not the content was useful or valid (for the record, it was/is good, but still has holes; I’m a believer that we COULD have probably at least put some batch size limits in QS to remove nuisance calls had we pumped the brakes and thought it through with the collective group).
In my cynical view.. what is stopping the NC from saying “we can’t get a quick TA.. but the company shows interest in an MOU”?
there’s nothing stopping the MEC from passing that before we ever get to see what’s in it (ala Quick Slips)
there wasn’t nearly enough angst from the pilot group about HOW that was done.. whether or not the content was useful or valid (for the record, it was/is good, but still has holes; I’m a believer that we COULD have probably at least put some batch size limits in QS to remove nuisance calls had we pumped the brakes and thought it through with the collective group).
04-20-2026 | 05:42 PM
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An MOU is purely a memorandum of understanding, meaning an agreement between the company and union on how they will interpret certain language.
There is no out in the Policy Manual or the ALPA C&BL that would permit a section 6 negotiation to skip MEMRAT.
04-20-2026 | 06:00 PM
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nothing directed to you GL.. but at what point does something become “important” enough to go out to MEMRAT?
In my cynical view.. what is stopping the NC from saying “we can’t get a quick TA.. but the company shows interest in an MOU”?
there’s nothing stopping the MEC from passing that before we ever get to see what’s in it (ala Quick Slips)
there wasn’t nearly enough angst from the pilot group about HOW that was done.. whether or not the content was useful or valid (for the record, it was/is good, but still has holes; I’m a believer that we COULD have probably at least put some batch size limits in QS to remove nuisance calls had we pumped the brakes and thought it through with the collective group).
In my cynical view.. what is stopping the NC from saying “we can’t get a quick TA.. but the company shows interest in an MOU”?
there’s nothing stopping the MEC from passing that before we ever get to see what’s in it (ala Quick Slips)
there wasn’t nearly enough angst from the pilot group about HOW that was done.. whether or not the content was useful or valid (for the record, it was/is good, but still has holes; I’m a believer that we COULD have probably at least put some batch size limits in QS to remove nuisance calls had we pumped the brakes and thought it through with the collective group).
04-20-2026 | 06:05 PM
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So an MOU (that is, 25-05 for Quick Slips) that wasn't designed to actually do anything but interpret language of an existing PWA area - somehow created an entirely new step in the coverage ladder? How did that happen except because the MEC wanted it to and made an exception to practice?
04-20-2026 | 09:33 PM
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C66 - JP is the only new rep of the 4. The other 3 were reelected to a 2nd term.
C54 - looks like the Capt rep and ST switched seats. It’ll be a 3rd term for both of them and 2nd term for the FO
Last edited by MrMustache; 04-20-2026 at 09:44 PM.
04-20-2026 | 10:04 PM
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Divide $23M/month by 17,500 pilots and I think you’ll find it actually isn’t much value per individual. I assume the company actually wants to reduce that bill and not just pay it elsewhere, so I simply can’t see them bringing anything that will pass memrat to the masses. Triple pay is here to stay for a long time, I’m guessing.
I sure won’t vote for any deal that puts $23m/17,500 in my pocket every month (roughly $1k after tax). I probably make ten times that solving the daily gummster fires management created with their incompetence.
I sure won’t vote for any deal that puts $23m/17,500 in my pocket every month (roughly $1k after tax). I probably make ten times that solving the daily gummster fires management created with their incompetence.
Give the value to those who are working extra. More like $23m/6,000. (I made that number up, I don't know what % of pilots fly premium every month, but it's not 17,500).
For example with a QS, 3x/4x payout should go to the pilot flying the trip. They put the slip in, they intended to fly the trip, they got the trip done. They also volunteered for unlimited batch size phone harassment. This also prevents overlapping 23m7 type payouts and lets it be leveled.
04-21-2026 | 03:23 AM
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