I never said big news on the 15th. Get it correct. I said that there were big news makers in the works. Someone else said that.

To make this even work, we would to make sure section 1 mainline limits did not allow more 76 seat jets by adding 76 seat jets to the mainline fleet. Ie we do not need to shoot ourselves in our own feet. I agree with slow on that one.
A change to section 1 does that. Many believe that section 6 is required to do that. Maybe. Fact is that if we add these jets with no change to section 1 we will give the company the ability to max out the 76 seat jet DCI fleet only to see them move off property once the deliveries are taken.

Deliberate moves need to be made. But I agree, they need to be made.

I totally agree WE would need to make some changes to make sure we didn't get scr*wed on the deal.

What I didn't agree with (or maybe didn't quite understand) was Slow's painting of the company somehow getting scr*wed on this deal.

If they moved aircraft from DCI to mainline as you pointed out it seems as if they would have plenty of wiggle room with the current language we have in play.

I would hope we'd change some language around to keep the backfilling of more 76 seaters at DCI from happening. We'd be idiots not to.

Hey but we now have Popeye's in DTW :rolleyes:

That Japanese restaurant rocks at DTW,great sushi,soba,the sticker shock isnt too bad either.

And it wound up with

"In regards to the E175 weights, I'll see what I can do with my friend."

Then crickets. In other words, hearsay.:rolleyes:

We have been down this path before.

It is DALPA's job to protect and serve the citizens of the DAL pilot group.

Several citizens have reported shots in the night and a missing.person and your response (don't bother me I'm having a donut) is without a body we have no crime. Bring me a body and we'll have something to investigate.

We even asked the guy with the warm smoking gun if he knew anything and he said "no".

Case closed......now quit bothering us with crank calls.

Now who was that missing person again, begins with an S?

Thanks again for sharing what you've "heard." I'm still looking for some facts, but nobody seems to be willing to produce any.

DALPA is the only organization with the horsepower to get to the bottom of this. Even if the mod can be and was undone with the stroke of a pen it does not address the motive and who paid for it. RA has said he didn't know anything about it yet there is considerable anecdotal evidence that DAL paid for the mod. I consider RA an honorable man and true to his word, however also shrewd enough to have the layered management and plausible deniability to honestly say he did not know.

I expect DALPA to be shrewd enough to see through this and what a possible DAL funding of this mod (completed or not) represents. Given recent events with RAH I consider the answer to that question particularly germane. RA is on record (ask Occam's Razor) as saying he wants everything less than 757 flown by outsorced lift.

Do you really believe that RAH did this all on their own solely for the DAL SA feed? Please tell.me that DALPA knows what is likely going on and is too proud to admit they got bamboozled, and not that you still believe there is no violation or intent.

I keep hearing the talking points from CPs and management that "we have lost the 100 seat Scope battle, it's time to be pragmatic and move on"

The 100 seat fight is coming - are we going to stand our ground or rationalize it away again?

This is not just a junior pilot jobs 3rd rail issue. The dwindling numbers of legacy pilots have all but put the regionals in control of ALPA. The liquidation of a legacy or another USAPA type debacle and the regionals will be in control. National will follow the money.

The number of disenfanchised former legacy pilots will exceed those working and when the big battle that is important to those who minimize Scope comes there will no longer be the strength in numbers and unity to make a differnce. ALPA is on the verge if irrelavance and I'm guessing there are already a considerable number of former of previously loyal ALPA members who would cross a picket line now as it is because they were sold out by those entrusted with "protecting the profession".

Protecting further incursions and winning back ground on Scope is the lynchpin in ALPA's future.

Does it represent an opportunity for the Scope Chickens to

1. Yell the sky is falling with no evidence?
2. Tilt at another windmill where there is no proof that a windmill stands?
3. Insert your favorite metaphor here...:D

Yup, DALPA isn't as shrewd as the average airlinepilotcentral.com forum poster...they were bamboozled by something that the books say didn't happen and that those that yell the loudest can't prove.

Give me some proof and I'll act on it. The airplanes are flying at less than 86,000 lbs. That's fact. RAH opspecs call for 86,000 lbs. Management says the aircraft are compliant.

Do you really believe what you write?

Name one CP or executive manager that has stated what you state...

I'm sure I'll hear crickets.