Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1198712)

I've got an FO who lives in the neighborhood. The other day he was running down our street. I told my wife he was a yes voter. My wife was screaming after him "PUSxY. I AM GOING TO KICK YOUR Axx."

I am glad I am married to the one I've got. No discussion necessary.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1198908)

I would like to apologize to all active and former military servicemen. I was responding to Carl's post accusing the junior pilots as the one's that will vote yes to this. I took offense to that and responded in an inappropriate manner. I made this post sometime last week. It was a cheap shot at senior pilots. I threw the military comment in there because almost all of our senior pilots have some military affiliation. The airline used to hire almost all military while the pilots hired in the last few years are almost all civilian. My comment about not thinking for themselves came from the fact that a TA has never been voted down. I know this does not make my comment any better. I am sorry. I did not realize that one comment would offend so many people. Thank you guys and girls for defending our country.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1198908)

I would like to apologize to all active and former military servicemen. I was responding to Carl's post accusing the junior pilots as the one's that will vote yes to this. I took offense to that and responded in an inappropriate manner. I made this post sometime last week. It was a cheap shot at senior pilots. I threw the military comment in there because almost all of our senior pilots have some military affiliation. The airline used to hire almost all military while the pilots hired in the last few years are almost all civilian. My comment about not thinking for themselves came from the fact that a TA has never been voted down. I know this does not make my comment any better. I am sorry. I did not realize that one comment would offend so many people. Thank you guys and girls for defending our country.

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1198896)

No problemo. I should mention that I don't think there is anything wrong with the program per se. It's great to be able to offer that to anybody. I just don't buy that it's implementation is going to result in one single AE over the next year.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1198908)

I would like to apologize to all active and former military servicemen. I was responding to Carl's post accusing the junior pilots as the one's that will vote yes to this. I took offense to that and responded in an inappropriate manner. I made this post sometime last week. It was a cheap shot at senior pilots. I threw the military comment in there because almost all of our senior pilots have some military affiliation. The airline used to hire almost all military while the pilots hired in the last few years are almost all civilian. My comment about not thinking for themselves came from the fact that a TA has never been voted down. I know this does not make my comment any better. I am sorry. I did not realize that one comment would offend so many people. Thank you guys and girls for defending our country.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1198908)

I would like to apologize to all active and former military servicemen. I was responding to Carl's post accusing the junior pilots as the one's that will vote yes to this. I took offense to that and responded in an inappropriate manner. I made this post sometime last week. It was a cheap shot at senior pilots. I threw the military comment in there because almost all of our senior pilots have some military affiliation. The airline used to hire almost all military while the pilots hired in the last few years are almost all civilian. My comment about not thinking for themselves came from the fact that a TA has never been voted down. I know this does not make my comment any better. I am sorry. I did not realize that one comment would offend so many people. Thank you guys and girls for defending our country.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1198908)

I would like to apologize to all active and former military servicemen. I was responding to Carl's post accusing the junior pilots as the one's that will vote yes to this. I took offense to that and responded in an inappropriate manner. I made this post sometime last week. It was a cheap shot at senior pilots. I threw the military comment in there because almost all of our senior pilots have some military affiliation. The airline used to hire almost all military while the pilots hired in the last few years are almost all civilian. My comment about not thinking for themselves came from the fact that a TA has never been voted down. I know this does not make my comment any better. I am sorry. I did not realize that one comment would offend so many people. Thank you guys and girls for defending our country.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1198862)

Again slowplay, your argument is not with me. It's with the LEC reps who have stated in writing that the TA is cost neutral.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1198773)

How would any of us know? You have yet to tell it. The LEC reps didn't misread or mishear. You're lying.

Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble (Post 1198645)

I asked about costing, specifically about the productivity concessions. I spoke to a rep who told me the MEC has not seen real costing in years. So again, where is the costing on these concessions? Who directed the MEC to transfer overtime flying from senior to junior pilots?

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1198650)

Then your rep was misinformed or misheard your question. Detailed costing was briefed to the MEC.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1198927)

Uh, I've done no such thing. I've been saying for some months now that it will be the bottom half of the list that will save us by holding firm on scope. Maybe you can clip the post where you think I've said such a thing.

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1195594)

Wrong. If we vote this in, it will be only because many junior (former RJ pilots) voted YES. Current RJ pilots will view this as the last straw for taking away a bigger chunk of their chance for a mainline job. They will not consider it struck work...they will consider it payback. Book it.

Carl