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cni187 06-27-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1219844)
Did he shove you when you called him a d!ckhead? :)

I was too scared. I asked him his opinion on DPA and he went livid. Started foaming at the mouth and went on an anti DPA diatribe like I have never seen.

DeadHead 06-27-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1219931)
I was too scared. I asked him his opinion on DPA and he went livid. Started foaming at the mouth and went on an anti DPA diatribe like I have never seen.

Why would he got so wound up over Donkey Punchers Anonymous ?

Not my thing, but to each his own.

Elvis90 06-27-2012 01:28 PM



Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1219911)
I had a buddy who was furloughed by Northwest Airlines twice since 2000, now with Delta. I don't know the history of furloughs at Northwest or the former Republic Airlines, which was acquired by Northwest in 1986. But Carl's statement does not surprise me, given the tense labor relations at the former Northwest Airlines prior to the merger with Delta.

Tense? My 88 sim partner was fNWA and he said relations with management were horrible. He is way happier with Delta.
I think most fNWA pilots like this mgt better. My point was simply that 5 furloughs in 25 or so years is in the realm of possibility.

Fly782 06-27-2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1219911)
I had a buddy who was furloughed by Northwest Airlines twice since 2000, now with Delta. I don't know the history of furloughs at Northwest or the former Republic Airlines, which was acquired by Northwest in 1986. But Carl's statement does not surprise me, given the tense labor relations at the former Northwest Airlines prior to the merger with Delta.

1984 and after would have no furloughs that he would have been apart of, if he was around before then. Judging on his position he was. Also you are correct most FNWA pilots do like DAL MGT, atleast my source does.

cni187 06-27-2012 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1219936)
Why would he got so wound up over Donkey Punchers Anonymous ?

Not my thing, but to each his own.

He used to work in ALPA.

Carl Spackler 06-27-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 1219651)
3. While I agree that our management made many expensive blunders, most experts have said that during the really bad times and high fuel prices, the only reason SWA made money is because of their fuel hedges. This allowed them to remain debt free when everyone else was hemorrhaging.
4. While all that is probably true, it still does not negate the fact that it remains a very simple and easy strategy to cling to when one’s business model supports it and is conducive to it.
5. If you were a junior DAL 737-800 Captain instead of a DAL 744 Captain with plenty of time remaining to reach number on the list (assuming you aren’t already number one), your recommendation for new hires to go to SWA’s might have a little more credibility. I know you mean well though.;)

Funny thing is, when I make that recommendation, most every pilot says that SWA or FDX is definitely their first choice.

Carl

Carl Spackler 06-27-2012 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 1219730)
Not sure if any of you have seen this but...

Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract - Washington Business Journal

"Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract"

This is why 2 weeks ago, I changed my description of this TA from "Cost Neutral" to "Cost Positive" for management.

Carl

Bill Lumberg 06-27-2012 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1219979)
Funny thing is, when I make that recommendation, most every pilot says that SWA or FDX is definitely their first choice.

Carl

Not SWA any more. The bottom SWA guys are complaining about very long upgrades in the future due to the younger AirTran guys getting ahead of them in their SLI.

Carl Spackler 06-27-2012 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1219784)
You have to remember how old Carl is. Way back in the stone age airline pilots flew mail. They navigated by bonfires and the mark one eyeball. Someone got the bright idea to put some passengers on the mailbags. Young Carl's boss bought a bunch of surplus WWI airplanes to cash in on the demand the self loading freight brought. Self loading freight = people.

At this time young Carl had a bad case of WPS. WPS stands for wooden prop syndrome and is similar to shiny jet syndrome that we have today. Carl sold his little sister to some sweat shop for flight lessons. He was soon hired to fly that cool plane with two wings.

Unfortunately those passengers didn't like to travel year round. Poor Carl's first furlough happened in September of 1937. Right after the summer rush. He was so devastated he almost quit flying. Instead he got a job selling Model A Fords at the local dealer. This boom and bust, fly the summer, furlough through the winter cycle lasted five years. By this time Carl accumulated enough time to move on to the big show.......monoplanes!!!!



While I don't know Carl's real story I do know there are many crummy flying jobs out there where the bottom third are furloughed each fall. I'm sure hard work along with a little luck has gotten him where he is today. Enjoy the 747 and retire when your ready Carl. In the meantime, does anyone have Tanya Hardings number? I'm sure she could use a few bucks wacking our senior pilots ankles. She could help with our career stagnation problem! Hahaha

:p:p:D

Now that is one damn funny post! But without outing myself, yes indeed my furloughs were seasonal that was typical back in the 70's.

Carl

Carl Spackler 06-27-2012 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1219890)
I understand it was alot different back then but I am curious if it was Northwest, because that would be complete BS. I am just trying to figure the guy out, especially with his DPA agenda. The 5 in 5 seems like an attempt to solidify his position on having the JR guys backs and knowing what career stagnation is like at DAL. I am just curious if it is truth or not. If it was somewhere else I apologize for the questioning.

No. NWA was my third airline.

Carl


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