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rvr350 07-09-2012 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1227050)
Reserve question:

You have 3 short call credits (Bucket 2 of short calls). Going into your last day on reserve they assign you short call (#4). You do not have a golden day on your next off day. There are other pilots available with one day of availability. However, they are going into golden days (in bucket 1 of short calls).

Can scheduling bypass the bucket system because they are going into golden days (released at noon) and use you?

Thanks.

There's nothing mentioned about next day off being the golden day regarding assigning SC. You can try to talk to find a more personable scheduler who's willing to discuss it with you. Lots of time they'll look into other guys with 1 day left, and explain why those guys are ineligible. Of the times that I tried to get an explanation from them, it just made me more ticked off... sorry about what happened to you. But hey, we're getting like 8 hrs. of payraise, right?:rolleyes:

sinca3 07-09-2012 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1227042)
Has been for quite some time.

Yes, but it's like they're shoving it in our faces!! If and when we get to negotiate/renegotiate I sure hope we take a tighter stance on JV's and code shares or else we will never get bigger in the wide body categories!

acl65pilot 07-09-2012 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1227050)
Reserve question:

You have 3 short call credits (Bucket 2 of short calls). Going into your last day on reserve they assign you short call (#4). You do not have a golden day on your next off day. There are other pilots available with one day of availability. However, they are going into golden days (in bucket 1 of short calls).

Can scheduling bypass the bucket system because they are going into golden days (released at noon) and use you?

Thanks.

Those pilots may be coming off a trip or SC. Look.

jabwmu 07-09-2012 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 1227058)
There's nothing mentioned about next day off being the golden day regarding assigning SC. You can try to talk to find a more personable scheduler who's willing to discuss it with you. Lots of time they'll look into other guys with 1 day left, and explain why those guys are ineligible. Of the times that I tried to get an explanation from them, it just made me more ticked off... sorry about what happened to you. But hey, we're getting like 8 hrs. of payraise, right?:rolleyes:

Thanks for the reply guys. I asked this question because this happened to me and I was able to get out of it. I talked with 2 schedulers and a supervisor. There were a couple of reserves in Group 1 of short call while I was in Group 2. I asked why others weren't being used. There were some who weren't working/some were, but had golden days on their next X day. Scheduling told me they wouldn't use them because they are released at noon. I referenced 23.S.1.f. They told me it was in a LOA. I can't find anything other than LOA #29 (Scheduling Alert 12-06). It doesn't mention golden days as a factor.

After reading Elvis90's experience I just want others to be aware. Also thought maybe someone would have a better reference.

Thanks again.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1227087)
Those pilots may be coming off a trip or SC. Look.


Flying Monkey 07-09-2012 06:54 PM

For the curious....
 
http://photos.prnewswire.com/pb-larg...pg??1341888782

forgot to bid 07-09-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1227087)
Those pilots may be coming off a trip or SC. Look.

Hopefully it's either in the works or will be suggested at some point to provide on the availability list what the pilot is doing. It'd clear up a lot of this confusion.

Not long ago I was way way down on the list and they called and gave me a trip. I kept the scheduler on the phone and we went through everyone's schedule.

The scheduler was actually very accommodating and while I caught 1 or 2 pilots that could've done it, it dawned on me that... sigh... a bird in the hand is better than sticking your hand in someones bush... or whatever that saying is. :D So I said, thanks, I'll be there in 13 hours!

However, short call palooza is ON! And I don't think it'll ever be OFF! I mean when they need to assign 14 SCs a day and only have 17 guys to do it with, it gets kind of ugly. Luckily, they'll have more SCs to give out. :o

The idea that you won't be senior enough to hold reserve will last about 1 month.

http://www1.vmi.edu/archives/images/accnum/00958.jpg

Boomer 07-09-2012 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1227009)
Becoming reality?!?!

Facts and Figures

If I'm reading that chart right, AF has 2 aircraft in SkyTeam livery. KLM has 3. Korean has 2. AeroMexico has 2.

Delta? Seven. Sounds fair. :confused:

Boomer 07-09-2012 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1227125)

Nice hats.

DogWhisperer 07-09-2012 07:43 PM

Elvis,

Been commuting from DFW-ATL since returning from furlough in 2007....it can be done. Not many numbers separate us. It can be interesting but most of the time you just have to have a pair of these...

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...alls2_5613.jpg

Whenever my wife says its OK....and she gets them off her closet shelf, and I have done the dishes, folded the clothes, and DVR'd HGTV for her....

acl65pilot 07-10-2012 12:15 AM

FtB;
What a pilot is doing is there you just have to look closely. Look at what time they started LC. If it is not an even hour, they are probably coming off a trip or SC. It will also show if they were on SC the previous day. Perfect? No, but better than what we had.


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