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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Does anyone know how you get all the new manual option onto your ipad? I couldn't find any guidance on Deltanet.
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
(Post 1227835)
FARNBOROUGH: SkyWest Airlines commits to 100 MRJs
So Skywest has ordered 100 of these things that will seat 78 people in the smaller version and 86 in the larger. Trans States also has 50 orders and 50 options. Does your new scope clause allow 76 seats or 78? Skywest and trans states could be hoping to fly them for American but the deliveries are slated for 2017 so is this Skywest hoping scope is lifted to 86 seats in your 2015 contract? Seems like Skywest and TSA are banking their entire futures on these things. In europe, regionals already fly 190's (KLM Cityhopper) We have to stop this trend! Hire me and I will help! What am I missing? |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1227906)
Hold on. Doesn't the "RAH exemption" only exempt RAH from operating "other than permitted aircraft"? I don't have a reference but it seems to me that if SKYW(or anyone else except RAH) actually places an aircraft over 76 seats into service then they can no longer be a DCI carrier....
What am I missing? |
Originally Posted by shiznit
Hold on. Doesn't the "RAH exemption" only exempt RAH from operating "other than permitted aircraft"? I don't have a reference but it seems to me that if SKYW(or anyone else except RAH) actually places an aircraft over 76 seats into service then they can no longer be a DCI carrier.... What am I missing? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1227805)
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Of course there is this one... http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/TEMP1-46.png I think I have this right. Start with the obvious, 7ER: Handsome, cocky, owns the world and really wants to be with the A330. A330: Enjoys the trips, wants more 7ER time. Just can't figure out how to do it. 744: Think about it, stops to watch you go by. Some flat out stare. And really, who do you want to be seen with when you walk into a social setting? When people ask, what do you do, you want to say the 744. 764: You rarely see it, but you know they're making an A. A320: Happy. 777: Solid. Boring. Money marker. DC9: Smaller than the 88 but looks very similar. MD88: I never study and I smile like I never study. 737: Like a maid, always there. Reliable. Frumpy. |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1227906)
Hold on. Doesn't the "RAH exemption" only exempt RAH from operating "other than permitted aircraft"? I don't have a reference but it seems to me that if SKYW(or anyone else except RAH) actually places an aircraft over 76 seats into service then they can no longer be a DCI carrier....
What am I missing? If they fly them as 76 seat jets, they fall under scope cap limits. The carve out was just for RAH. Right now however according to the contract SKYW can not fly them for us unless they come in under MGW and 76 seats... |
Look at this in a different view…SW announces a buy at Farnborough…this was obviously being worked well before the airshow and before/during our contract negotiations…was the 4th floor privy to this info, Yes…when are deliverers scheduled to begin?...2017, start of our next contract!
SW will fly these aircraft with reduced seats (76) vs. capacity for us (76+) or others in the short term?, Yes. SW will need aircraft to replace its loss of 50 seaters?, Yes. Can they be reconfigured for more seats?, Yes. What happens during our next negotiations? I’m sure our next survey will overwhelmingly state no more scope give-up. Our union has set the precedent that they give-up scope. Who cares about the new contract it is the next one that this will fall under. Can you see us (and others) getting setup here? |
Originally Posted by GBU-24
(Post 1227977)
Look at this in a different view…SW announces a buy at Farnborough…this was obviously being worked well before the airshow and before/during our contract negotiations…was the 4th floor privy to this info, Yes…when are deliverers scheduled to begin?...2017, start of our next contract!
SW will fly these aircraft with reduced seats (76) vs. capacity for us (76+) or others in the short term?, Yes. SW will need aircraft to replace its loss of 50 seaters?, Yes. Can they be reconfigured for more seats?, Yes. What happens during our next negotiations? I’m sure our next survey will overwhelmingly state no more scope give-up. Our union has set the precedent that they give-up scope. Who cares about the new contract it is the next one that this will fall under. Can you see us (and others) getting setup here? Anything positive happening in life for any pilot? |
Originally Posted by FIIGMO
That is a big assumption but I can see where no matter what there is nothing any one organization can do despite the facts to make any pilot happy! So yes we will cave and give away everything next time. Anything positive happening in life for any pilot? We have a lot of time to deflect this BJRJ (Big Japanese RJ) thing. Education will be key. If the pilot group overwhelming opposes these airplanes then they will never wear the Delta name. If I owned SKYW stock I'd sell it. Either Skywest is going to get stuck paying for these airplanes to sit in a hangar or they're going to be forced to pay order cancellation fees. In either case these aircraft will never wear the Delta livery. Period. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1227899)
I'm glad you'll be retired too. Congratulations. You've obviously done a terrific job your entire career not selling out on scope. You should be proud of your accomplishments.
I predict check-mate on Scope by the company in two moves. Let me know how it all works out for you. |
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