Not many will. When they retire one guy, one FO moves up, and they hire one. At DL or any Major, one top guy leaves, and 10 move up. Adding any growth aircraft does the same, but maybe not 10 guys moving up, maybe 4 or 5 depending on where the upgrading Capt comes from. (widebody FO or narrowbody FO). Still, it equals good upward movement and pay raises. At Southwest, not so much. And have you checked out any new Capt rates in 2015 for any DL plane bigger than a 737? A lot more than Southwest, FINALLY. How many DL 737 Capts will move up to bigger equipment in future years? It will be really nice. Southwest will slow considerably when younger AirTran pilots start moving into Southwest Capt ranks and stay for 30 years. And did you know 200+ 50 seaters you hate will be leaving the fleet within the next 3 years? You're welcome.

gotta go the extra mile to eek the attention off of the newk, just trying to keep pace

no not the birds, the nose gear crushing the earth...:eek: Just trying to take your advice on making sure they knew they "arrived" lol

it had nothing to do with the radar, they were trying to get a peak at you to tell their friends but once they got a peak they exploded leaving guts all over your windscreen :D

I dunno - I'm thinking the Mad Dog is Wednesday Addams. She's normally sweet and adorable, but let your guard down for one second and you'll find a knife in your back. :D

I Love BloodSport!! MateH!! I watched that movie over 20 times!:eek:

TEN

I was being sarcastic, guess it didn't come across that way even though I used a :rolleyes:. Just stating that the original poster made it seem like this 717 deal is a lot better for the company than ALPA thought. Original poster implied that it will save the company $750 million next year alone. I believe the article is not written well because I have to believe, as stated by shiznit, that the savings must be from the entire refleeting project. There is no way that just 16 airplanes (717's) next year are going to save us that kind of money. My thoughts anyway.

Last observation of the trip:

Even though the vote went 62%-38%, I bet* 100% of APC'ers when they meet in the real world at some point will ask one another, "What the hell is wrong with Bill Lumberg?"


*[Ts, 80, whoever Ts is looking for, or anyone else, I do not really want to bet. It's a joke.]

That is all..... :rolleyes: :D

Not necessarily directed at you but just a thought anyway - for comparison's sake. Had the company added the 717 fleet outside of Section 6 we would have negotiated a new pay rate for it. Maybe it would have gotten M88 pay. So say the company parks the 50s, adds the 717s, we negotiate a new rate, and get nothing, but they still save their huge chunk of change. Not saying its fair if this analyst is correct, but in alternate universes this could have turned just plain bleak for us.

Remember too that not every penny of profit that Delta makes immediately is willed to you. There's 79,999 others that think they generated the revenue who want fractions of your penny.

Southwests fleet plan is for zero growth the next 5 years and they have very few retirements. The Captain upgrades will come as Airtran Captains are bumped back to FO and SW FO's replace them.

Chong Li, Chong Li, Chong Li!!!!!

FWIW,

I agree with you.