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CVG767A 07-09-2012 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Adolphus Coors (Post 1226745)
I'm not sure this is the same as the last two.

It is my understanding that there are many FNWA pilots who are forfeiting pension payments because they are still working. Essentially they are working for healthcare and per-diem. Many of these pilots are closer to retirement today than they were for the previous two. The RMA appears to be designed to help fill the void they may have for their final few years here. I hope and have a gut feeling that many FNWA pilots will take it.

About a year ago, the prevailing sentiment on this and the ALPA board was that the guys with pensions would leave in droves if we only had a medical plan for retirees. Now that DALPA has negotiated one, we'll see if they meant it, or we're just blowing smoke. I want to believe they'll go, but I'm still not expecting much. I hope I'm wrong...

tsquare 07-09-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1226766)
About a year ago, the prevailing sentiment on this and the ALPA board was that the guys with pensions would leave in droves if we only had a medical plan for retirees. Now that DALPA has negotiated one, we'll see if they meant it, or we're just blowing smoke. I want to believe they'll go, but I'm still not expecting much. I hope I'm wrong...

They were just blowing smoke. We all love flying airplanes. It's what we do. It defines us. Everybody talks the talk... but when it comes to walking the walk.. not so gung ho.

Fire away.

iceman49 07-09-2012 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1226425)
That's what I expect, as well. The FNWA guys are more likely to take it, given the fact that they have a pension. I'm expecting 200 or so mostly north guys to take the deal, and anticipate little or no trickle-down benefit to me.

Very few if any that are still here have the "big" pension from flying the wide-body, a lot of the pilots frozen portion is less than PBGC, plus no HCTC.

acl65pilot 07-09-2012 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1226779)
They were just blowing smoke. We all love flying airplanes. It's what we do. It defines us. Everybody talks the talk... but when it comes to walking the walk.. not so gung ho.

Fire away.

For a pilot that is 55 130K is probably not what they are looking for to punch out. Give the severance and a RMA double that and many more would consider it. Guys want that RMA to supplement Medicare or Tricare.

Cycle Pilot 07-09-2012 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by NWARet (Post 1226734)
Same issue on both browsers. When I submit a search for flights, I get this message,

The page at https//connect.delta.com says please enter only a valid airport code.
Have you seen this before?

I just tried it on my stock Android browser and it worked fine. I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 on an HTC Incredible. What kind of phone do you have and what's the version of Android you have?

Cycle Pilot 07-09-2012 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1226779)
They were just blowing smoke. We all love flying airplanes. It's what we do. It defines us. Everybody talks the talk... but when it comes to walking the walk.. not so gung ho.

Fire away.

I'm flying with a 320 Captain who turns 64 in a couple weeks. He's taking the early out. Although, he doesn't think they'll give it to him because he's too junior.

76drvr 07-09-2012 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1226720)
So, we're saying the RMA is going to crater almost as hard as the TA tanked?

Good one.

My prediction is a minimum of 274 take it.

NWARet 07-09-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1226813)
I just tried it on my stock Android browser and it worked fine. I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 on an HTC Incredible. What kind of phone do you have and what's the version of Android you have?

Samsung Conqrer with gingerbread 2.36

Herman 07-09-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1226678)

New topic.

full of luv 07-09-2012 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1226779)
They were just blowing smoke. We all love flying airplanes. It's what we do. It defines us. Everybody talks the talk... but when it comes to walking the walk.. not so gung ho.

Fire away.

I agree, it's much more psychological than financial for MANY captains.

Its hard to make the leap from "Airline CAPT" to "retired" in your mind, it's admitting to the end of a personal era.

The nice thing for them though is it is a choice... some have other things they could do in their new "spare" time and others haven't contemplated what they would do.

Luv


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