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Old 07-10-2012 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
We will be negotiating a new contract in 2015... what's your point?
BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA That is funny "T"!!! Couldnt resist!

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Old 07-10-2012 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
We will be negotiating a new contract in 2015... what's your point?

Aahhh, and there it is folks. The old "we'll get em next time."
Old 07-10-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
Aahhh, and there it is folks. The old "we'll get em next time."
yep DPA would have done better!
Old 07-10-2012 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
Aahhh, and there it is folks. The old "we'll get em next time."
I think you meant to say: "We'll be able to get even more next time since we already got a solid improvement this time."


T was merely pointing out that the current PWA will be opened in April of 2015, and with almost 20% higher rates, better work rules and rigs, more pay for vac/trng.

It is great to get all that upfront instead of waiting for 2-3 years and hoping for a retro check, and then being able to pile even more value into the PWA rather than just wrapping up the first deal.


That blurb by Zack's was just a piece of analyst garbage anyway, mixing lots of different info but not saying anything useful or accurate... Gotta do something to justify the boss keeping them on payroll.
Old 07-10-2012 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
yep DPA would have done better!
Hey that brings up an interesting point - what becomes of the DPA now that we have a new contract? Are they still lurking in the shadows, soliciting donations? Will they re-emerge in 2015 with new bag tags?
Not trying to stir up issues over this, but where do they go from here?
Old 07-10-2012 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
Aahhh, and there it is folks. The old "we'll get em next time."

Call it what you want, but fact is that this agreement is amendable in 2015.

And I prefer "We'll get MORE next time"... but whatever makes you happy.
Old 07-10-2012 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Hey that brings up an interesting point - what becomes of the DPA now that we have a new contract? Are they still lurking in the shadows, soliciting donations? Will they re-emerge in 2015 with new bag tags?
Not trying to stir up issues over this, but where do they go from here?
We'll never be rid of the pastry boys
Old 07-10-2012 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I think you meant to say: "We'll be able to get even more next time since we already got a solid improvement this time."
Higher ALV = less pilots required. How many fewer pilots do you want on the seniority list?

I guess "solid improvements" are in the eye of the beholder.
Old 07-10-2012 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
Higher ALV = less pilots required. How many fewer pilots do you want on the seniority list?

I guess "solid improvements" are in the eye of the beholder.
Free Bird,

Can you point to any pilot groups that have above average pay by feather bedding?
Old 07-10-2012 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The one benefit of a 22.5 year old MD-88, it's harder to get the birds into the front hole where the engine thingy spins around and around.
Heck I just thought they heard them coming...such a good sound Occasionally a few even dive for cover...that or its just sheer loss of lift by imitating the wing design
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