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Old 07-27-2012 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Enemyofthestate
Heard as of yesterday 176 on the RMA. Figure 10-20% backout for a total of ~150. I guess this kills once and for all the early retirement and all it needed was a medical plan myth.

I guess a bunch of junior pilots are going to get a displacement pay cut instead of a raise, and no new hires for a while.

The further capacity reductions sort of kills the hope of the 2013 flying plan making up for the productivity increases and RMA shortfall.

I bet 717A and 88A all go more, not less senior than before the TA
The target for the RMA was around 250 pilots. Even if only 150 take it that's 100 fewer pilots than the target. I doubt a bunch of junior pilots are going to get displaced over 100 fewer positions. Especially since the 717's are growth airplanes. On top of that we don't know what the 2013 flying plan is going to be. I'm guessing we are going to start hiring early next year.
Old 07-27-2012 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Are the ground crews on our replacement aircraft cutting corners and not flushing out the tanks? I've accepted that they will be flying most Delta pax in the future, so I thought for my parents nonrevving, etc they might as well at least have clean water.
How do you think that can happen when there is a planned REDUCTION in DCI airframes of approx. 25% and also 15.5% REDUCTION in DCI seats flying around in the next 3 years?

Even if there isn't any new mainline, DCI is capped where it is... No more growth in any form.
Old 07-27-2012 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
I think our young Comair, soon to be Deltoid, is dreaming of young NYC FA's slobbering drunk at the Kew Club. Tossing and grinding.......UNDERBOOB PLEASE
Just be VERY careful which night of the week you go grinding on slobbering drunk FA's in the Kew Club!

(Are there any "young" guys left at Comair? I thought the average age was older than the AA pilot group!)
Old 07-27-2012 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Desperado
I believe that this car is a Peugeot RCZ. If the flight was indeed coming from France, that would back up my guess.
I found it off a google search looking for pics of the cars we use for the hvc service. It came from this airliners thread which is kind of interesting....

Delta Ships Porsche Cars Straight From Paris — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net
Old 07-27-2012 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by N9373M
You'll never know. What feels good at bedtime sucks an hour later, which sucks an hour later, which sucks an hour later, which................. you get the idea.

Much like most of my dates, it makes a hell of a racket when inflating/deflating
No kidding that thing is loud.
Old 07-27-2012 | 02:10 AM
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FYI... EWR KCM is NOT at the DAL gates... It is ONLY in operation at the C (aka UCAL) terminal...

Misleading..... EWR is "partially operational" with KCM.....
Old 07-27-2012 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by N9373M
You'll never know. What feels good at bedtime sucks an hour later, which sucks an hour later, which sucks an hour later, which................. you get the idea.

Much like most of my dates, it makes a hell of a racket when inflating/deflating
No kidding that thing is loud.
Old 07-27-2012 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I'm hearing from friends tonight, big announcement for Comair tomorrow at 830am ... and it isn't good news for them. Anyone else hearing the same?
I heard it, too. Not the time, but heard sometime today.
Old 07-27-2012 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71
The target for the RMA was around 250 pilots. Even if only 150 take it that's 100 fewer pilots than the target. I doubt a bunch of junior pilots are going to get displaced over 100 fewer positions. Especially since the 717's are growth airplanes. On top of that we don't know what the 2013 flying plan is going to be. I'm guessing we are going to start hiring early next year.
Correct, The total net job loss is expected to be around 125 to 150 jobs. Guys keep jumping on the 300 to 340 number which is the jobs expected to be lost to the ALV going to 84 and ALV plus 15 for reserves. There were other areas of the contract where we gained back jobs such as vacation and training counting toward a reserve being full. The net loss of jobs is expected to be about 125 to 150. Even that will not happen in one bid overnight. The early retirement program has no effect on any of that regardless. ER's do not offset job loss other then as a short term temporary measure.
What will determine what actually happens is the economy. If it tanks the bids will be ugly. If things start to turn around then it will be much better. To paraphrase, "Its the economy stupid". Winter ticket sales to Europe are already weak so lets hope the summer flying plan for 13 does not take to big a hit. The contract we just signed is nothing but a blip compared to the economy when it comes to future pilot jobs at Delta.
Old 07-27-2012 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I'm hearing from friends tonight, big announcement for Comair tomorrow at 830am ... and it isn't good news for them. Anyone else hearing the same?
Off to the orphanage in 12 minutes...
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