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Boomer 07-14-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1229592)
Glad you made it. It was good meeting you too! I wish we could've fixed it and gone. I could've used your presence to help me tame that 767 beast. Super tells me it's like Skywalker moving his fighter in the presence of Yoda. The power of the master is present.

The difference is,
Skywalker couldn't lift the ship out of the swamp.
Yoda lifted the ship out of the swamp.
Newk would push the planet away from the ship to get it out of the swamp.

LOBO 07-14-2012 09:08 PM

SILS???
 
Did SILs make it in our new contract? (iPad word search didn't find anything)

If not why are they still posting on DeltaNet?

80ktsClamp 07-14-2012 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1229954)
Yep- more what's? who's? really's? Keep acting oblivious, Lawnchair. You have no idea who General Lee is. :rolleyes:

It's more that he says what ever he hears from his dad...

dalad 07-14-2012 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 1229941)
Bill, you are hilarious! You sound like a guy named General Lee from another board.

Hah! Thanks for outing him, as I was beginning to think the writing styles were awfully similar. Kinda smart taking the name of the other Bill from FI. Although GL from the other board claims to be a senior 7er B based in ATL.

sailingfun 07-15-2012 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1229963)
Sure, but you won't be able to say that after several iterations of double-digit increases. Seems a lot of Delta guys could have said the same thing about the company's insurance plan a decade ago. Point being, you think it's nothing at first, but after a while it adds up.

It does add up. The changes in hourly rate plus the changes in DC will increase a 747 captains total compensation if he credits 1000 hours a year by 133,000 dollars on 1 Jan 2014. Not bad in this economy.

hockeypilot44 07-15-2012 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1229665)
Ha, I hit my $5000 out of pocket in network max already.

It was $12k for a 2 night stay for one, $15k for a five night stay for the other both viruses. The latter hit his head playing and that was $5k ER visit. Still paying off the $2k bill from last year.

My total hospital bill for FTB since 1999, $150.

Do you have the gold plan? If so, you will spend $9248 on health insurance this year not including dental or vision. The HRA gold plan is about as bad as it gets if you actually use it. It looks good if you only go to the doctor once of twice a year, but for something major, it is a very bad plan.

I'll break it down for those that don't understand it. (114.50x24) for premiums + 3000 family deductible + 5000 family max out of pocket - 1500 HRA account. It comes out to $9248. This is assuming you manage to keep every claim in-network. I put $2000 into the FSA account this year because I knew we were having a kid. I just paid $2000 out of my pocket because my HRA and FSA account are empty. It is my own fault for picking this plan. I will never pick it again. The HRA account is there as a distraction because the plan is so bad. You end up with a $1500 deductible for the family instead of a $3000 deductible, but that deductible does not count towards the out of pocket max.

Pineapple Guy 07-15-2012 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1230028)
Do you have the gold plan? If so, you will spend $9248 on health insurance this year not including dental or vision. The HRA gold plan is about as bad as it gets if you actually use it. It looks good if you only go to the doctor once of twice a year, but for something major, it is a very bad plan.

I'll break it down for those that don't understand it. (114.50x24) for premiums + 3000 family deductible + 5000 family max out of pocket - 1500 HRA account. It comes out to $9248. This is assuming you manage to keep every claim in-network. I put $2000 into the FSA account this year because I knew we were having a kid. I just paid $2000 out of my pocket because my HRA and FSA account are empty. It is my own fault for picking this plan. I will never pick it again. The HRA account is there as a distraction because the plan is so bad. You end up with a $1500 deductible for the family instead of a $3000 deductible, but that deductible does not count towards the out of pocket max.

Hockey, let me add some additional numbers for your consideration.

To reach that out of pocket maximum, you had to have charged at least $43,000 in medical expenses at the in-network rate. Add in another $500-1000 of expenses for the "free" preventive services you might have utilized, and you're at roughly $44,000 of medical expenses on the year. And that's at the UHC negotiated discount, generally about 50%. So, let's do the real math on that $88,000 of medical expenses that the doctors/hospitals actually charged:

$44,000 - written off by the doctor as a loss
$9,248 - your share of the remaining $44,000
$34,742 - Delta's share of the remaining $44,000

Yes, we pay a ton for health care. That is a huge problem in this country. But you're not the only one "taking it in the shorts". Do I wish we all had "free" health care, like we used to. Of course. But whose pocket do you propose to take that money from? I'm just asking a serious question.

And BTW, just what medical plan do you plan to take, if you're gonna drop the Gold HRA? There are no silver bullets out there. Choose carefully.

johnso29 07-15-2012 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 1229970)
Did SILs make it in our new contract? (iPad word search didn't find anything)

If not why are they still posting on DeltaNet?

I think we eliminated the 55 hours of pay for a SIL(through a side letter I believe) during our last contract. I'll search, but I think that sweet deal is gone.

Jesse 07-15-2012 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1230015)
It does add up. The changes in hourly rate plus the changes in DC will increase a 747 captains total compensation if he credits 1000 hours a year by 133,000 dollars on 1 Jan 2014. Not bad in this economy.

Well, I was speaking to insurance. Glad to hear you're completely satisfied with your company's insurance plan and its costs. No need for future NCs to address that issue. Well, except in regard to what you're willing to give up to keep it.

capncrunch 07-15-2012 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1230015)
It does add up. The changes in hourly rate plus the changes in DC will increase a 747 captains total compensation if he credits 1000 hours a year by 133,000 dollars on 1 Jan 2014. Not bad in this economy.

That's nifty for the very few that are 747 captains.


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