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MachJ 07-15-2012 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1230229)
ERs might be expensive but I think they do a phenomenal job.

Some people would disagree with that

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/op...ed-to-fly.html

tsquare 07-15-2012 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1230256)
LGB??? Lesbian, Gay, Bi?


Grow up...

tsquare 07-15-2012 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1230257)
Some people would disagree with that

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/op...ed-to-fly.html

I thought he was referring to the airplanes. :D

As to the other, you are always gonna find the exception. I think most will continue to do well until inundated with obomacare entitled free medical seekers..

Elvis90 07-15-2012 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1230247)
Are you guys ever gonna consider LGB pay or at least bigger bands...

How obvious does this have to be?

I've had this discussion with several Delta pilots recently. They see either pay banding or longevity pay as the primary solution to our training capacity problem when we hit 800+ retirements per year. They see it as one of the primary negotiating items the company will want in the next contract. Most pilots I talk with look at this favorably. Not sure about the unintended consequences, but that has been discussed on this forum previously.

SailorJerry 07-15-2012 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90

I've had this discussion with several Delta pilots recently. They see either pay banding or longevity pay as the primary solution to our training capacity problem when we hit 800+ retirements per year. They see it as one of the primary negotiating items the company will want in the next contract. Most pilots I talk with look at this favorably. Not sure about the unintended consequences, but that has been discussed on this forum previously.

I think it'll depend on how aligned the categories start from a seniority perspective. It could take years to integrate the pay bands from a seniority stand point, not to mention the rush of training events that the pay banding would cause. In this case I think we're already behind the 8 ball unless they start the pay banding yesterday. If they wait until 2016 it could be too late.

Perhaps DAL just isn't interested and they think the current seat locks are a good enough disincentive.

Bluto 07-15-2012 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1230149)
I do. It's a requirement for us to be Facebook friends with our kids (age 13 or older) in order for them to have a facebook account.

Sorry Elvis, apparently responsible parenting isn't cool. :rolleyes:

CVG767A 07-15-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1230247)
Are you guys ever gonna consider LGB pay or at least bigger bands...

How obvious does this have to be?

You may have covered this already, but with any plan like this, there will be winners and losers. Have you done the math to give us an idea of what the pay rates would look like? I would like to see the pay cuts that those in higher-paying categories would take to equalize rates. I'm assuming you would do this (or have already done this) on a cost-neutral basis.

CVG767A 07-15-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 1230292)
Sorry Elvis, apparently responsible parenting isn't cool. :rolleyes:

At some point, you can loosen the reins. My kids are 19 and 22.

Elvis90 07-15-2012 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1230297)
At some point, you can loosen the reins. My kids are 19 and 22.

Well, that's different. Mine are 17, 14, 11 & 9. If they were out of the house, no big deal.

Pineapple Guy 07-15-2012 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1230229)
Pg, $44k or $34k to hit the out of pocket max? I'd have to add up ours we just hit the max. The big picture though of your post I completely agree with.

I came up with that as follows:

$1000 - preventive - 100% covered by Delta
$3000 - the deductible - 50% covered by Delta with HRA dollars
$40,000 - the coinsurance amounts - 80/20 covered by Delta until your portion equals $5,000

So, you pay $1500 + $5000.
Delta pays $1000 + $1500 + $32,000

Then you reimburse Delta a portion of their costs thru your premiums.

I don't know where all the money is going, but somebody's getting wealthy off all this.


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