Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 646801)

It is of course Carl.. a matter of perspective. What the NWA guys are going to benefit from is the economic downturn.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 646801)

Blockhead didn't alloow for that now did he?

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 646801)

After we have all been bumped out of our seats in a few weeks... when the economy turns back up... MY current seat will be filled by DC9 and A320 guys... the same guys that cannot now hold anything even resembling a widebody aircraft.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 646801)

(And yes... the 767 is a widebody)

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 646801)

So who lost (or will lose) is all a matter of perspective, isn't it?

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 646801)

But I'll make you a deal. I won't talk about this anymore if you won't.

Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 646840)

As was yours....which also doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 646910)

Carl, I'm glad you agree the SLI was fair, we agree on that! Somehow, though, it's a little nostalgic thinking about all the little "battles" we all had over the SLI last year......in a sick way, I suppose, it was kinda fun...them was sorta the "good 'ole days"...wasn't they? I think when we are truly combined, we are going to make a great airline!

Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 646910)

(paraphrasing Vito Corleone: "I'm going to blame some of the people in this room for this...");)

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 646963)

I find it interesting that certain viewpoints or discussions, which could in theory start food-fights, are met here with reasoned and measured responses (from both sides), that serve to steer things back to the center.

That tells me there is hope for this merger.

Imagine an East guy telling a (UsAirways) West guy that he "won" SLI. Imagine the response...

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 647318)

I didn't offer opinion. I offered fact. The DAL-S proposal was accepted by the arbitrators, the DAL-N proposal was not.

That certainly did and does matter.

Carl

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 647243)

The multiplier determines the number of reserves required or the number you see in the computer. Once that number is posted it has no effect on the actual swaps. Yes it has a effect overall because it ups the reserves required however if the day shows adequate coverage you will get your drop or swap.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 647316)

Hardly. The displacements to come from our new management team's decision to park DAL-N airplanes will be from DAL-N pilots. Don't see how displacements benefit DAL-N pilots.



He specifically allowed for that. If he had agreed to our Date of Hire proposal, than you might be right. He didn't. Instead, he aligned us by pay and aircraft type.



You don't know that.



Never said it wasn't



It's really not. It's fact. The DAL-S proposal was chosen by the arbitrators. The DAL-N propasal was not. You can view the consequences of the SLI from your own perspective - we all do that. But you cannot view the SLI result any other way except one side won, and the other side lost. Unless you're one of these new age teachers who tell their little math students that there are no wrong answers, and no winners or losers.



I don't mind talking about it. The facts are what they are.

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 647316)

Hardly. The displacements to come from our new management team's decision to park DAL-N airplanes will be from DAL-N pilots. Don't see how displacements benefit DAL-N pilots.

Carl

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 647368)

Carl, using that logic every new airplane purchased by this combined company going forward is bought by "our new management team" not DAL-N. Right?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 647393)

What am I missing here? That's not logic, that's exactly the case. Every new airplane purchased by the combined company going forward is done by the new management team, not DAL-N management. Unfortunately, the new management team is making some dreadful decisions regarding parking aircraft IMO. There were years when our freight division made most of the company's profits - when other airlines were losing their back sides. Now our new management team has decided to walk away from that division and those Pacific routes.

Are you saying that aircraft purchases going forward ARE being made by DAL-N management?

Carl