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well my dot connecting is still pointing to the E-190's coming to DAL. Whatchyall think?

Nope. We have MD90's coming that cost 1/3 as much and haul 153 pax. I foresee these replacing the DC9-30/40 in time.

Also any airplanes coming from an active domestic airline (outside of Ch7 asset sales) bring the risk of having to integrate their pilots. In the case of LCC I don't think anyone in their right mind wants to get within a country mile of that debacle.

I feel very sorry for any pilot group that ends up with any hypothetical LCC 190's. USAPA might have the horsepower to bully their way onto the RAH list, and it would be a delicious irony if they were able to get DOH there.

I agree, I do not see them here. I see them at RAH/MEH. I see a good chance of their 175's going to CPS and us allowing them at the higher weights.
We may get 10 319/318's from Frontier, but the 190 does not meet the reliability that DAL Flight Ops is willing to sign off on. It may down the road, but to date it is not the performer that we would hope a mainline jet would be.

That must be why the fNWA MEC NEVER ended up with a business class rest seat on a widebody aircraft.

As I said before, giving one person too much power can end up with bad results for the pilot group and often ends in abuse o such power. The abuse can be deliberate or unintentional, but is abuse nonetheless.

I won't speak for the last 10 years of fNWA MEC politics as I wa an outsider looking in, but, prior to that I was part of what you call "dysfunction" and we produced things like:

Industry leading scope language

THe first comprehensive codeshare/joint venture agreement with a foreign airline (KLM)

The first voluntary assessment to cover health insurance for furloughed pilots. This happened at the BOD meeting that Delta announced the first pilot furloughs in recent history and was quickly adopted by the DALPA MEC.

Last major airline to convert to a B-Scale

A frozen pension, in lieu of a terminated pension

I acknowledge that our MEC liked to have infighting, that was our method of debating issues. Some of them were very difficult issues due to an inherited botched merger agreement (Roberts Award). But in the end we put aside our family differences to put up a united front against management.

One of the keys to doing that was keeping the pilot group up to date.

Another was not concentrating too much power in the hands of one individual.

Guess which way the current DALPA is headed?

In its current state the DALPA MEC could be "dysfuntional" and you would never know, because there is NO public debate and no transparency and apparently no oversight of the MEC Chairman and some of the committees he appoints.

DALPA is cultivating a garden of 12,000+ mushrooms.

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Read the Big Apple News on DalNet. Its located with the Trim Tabs articles. Ax gives some good insight into the cost of furloughs. Nice to see that the company has gone through the calculations to see what it actually costs to let guys go and not just put us out on the street all willy nilly. Makes for more sound business decisions. I do believe that our mgmt does have a forward looking plan. Now if we can just work through those "out of the money" fuel hedges.

:D:D:D

Carl

I would be very surprised to see the MEC sign off on the higher GW for those aircraft, unless it was done by LOA without Rep approval. I see that as very risky for LM given the reaction of the last Scope grievance settlement.

Perhaps in exchange for tightening up of Scope in other areas? A possible quid I might consider is to modify (or better yet eliminate altogether) the 3:1 increase of 76 seaters when we exceed 753 acft to include 1:3 peelback provisions should mainliners subsequently be reduced at a later date.