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Mesabah 07-27-2012 09:13 AM

If the Comair planes come to Pinnacle so will the Comair pilots.

acl65pilot 07-27-2012 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1236153)
If the Comair planes come to Pinnacle so will the Comair pilots.


I was thinking about this the last few days, and wondered if they are shutting OH down now so that they can acquire 9E in CH11. End result would be no need to swap 70's for 50's and effectively have no CPA with 9E. Allows them to reduce the DCI footprint without redoing the SKW/EV CPA's. Shut down OH now so that early next year they can buy 9E and start the reduction.

*The 70's that would be used to do the purported agreed to swap out in the 9E CH11 CPA (*AWST) would be from SKW and EV. If they (SKW Holdings) are unwilling to redo their CPA's, they will not have jets that they can swap out with 9E. The 76 seat airframes need to be used elsewhere so this one-two may be the work around they have come up with.

Just a random thought.

Mesabah 07-27-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1236160)
I was thinking about this the last few days, and wondered if they are shutting OH down now so that they can acquire 9E in CH11. End result would be no need to swap 70's for 50's and effectively have no CPA with 9E. Allows them to reduce the DCI footprint without redoing the SKW/EV CPA's. Shut down OH now so that early next year they can buy 9E and start the reduction.

*The 70's that would be used to do the purported agreed to swap out in the 9E CH11 CPA (*AWST) would be from SKW and EV. If they (SKW Holdings) are unwilling to redo their CPA's, they will not have jets that they can swap out with 9E. The 76 seat airframes need to be used elsewhere so this one-two may be the work around they have come up with.

Just a random thought.

Yes, Delta has to buy us if they want to activate the 50 seater reduction agreement in our new ASA. Otherwise, we keep our 200's till 2020.

acl65pilot 07-27-2012 10:38 AM

Another reason is to be cleaning up their balance sheet and taking goodwill write-offs now in the preparation for a acquisition/merger that may or may not include a wholly owned subsidiary. Solves possible integration issues down the road as well.

Mesaba,

Becoming an "exclusive" DCI carrier would lead credence to becoming wholly owned though.

*Also note when Colgan is being shut down, and the expeditious manner they are being parked as well.

PinnacleFO 07-27-2012 10:45 AM

Whatever is happening, its happening at an alarming pace. Like ACL65 said, the acceleration of the Q's, management leaving the negotiating table and not starting up again, and the Shut Down of Comair. I myself about less than a year ago did not see that bad of news coming for pinnacle but now it becomes real seeing comair shut down.
Also I believe they just pushed back our deadline to exit bankruptcy with the DIP financing to January of 2013 for final approval. I believe that is 3 months later than it was.

Bucking Bar 07-27-2012 10:59 AM

The 717's will not arrive for nearly a year. The CRJ900's to follow. In the mean time we are pulling down the reach of the DCI system and thus, the Delta network.

Events of the last couple of weeks suggest the plan for New York needs a serious re-think due to ATC limitations.

grasshopper 07-27-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1236203)
The 717's will not arrive for nearly a year. The CRJ900's to follow. In the mean time we are pulling down the reach of the DCI system and thus, the Delta network.

Events of the last couple of weeks suggest the plan for New York needs a serious re-think due to ATC limitations.

expecting increased utilization:) ?...just merger prep...or the wicked all dooming recessionary travel environment?

KC10 FATboy 07-27-2012 12:22 PM

So, any bets on how long CVG remains in play?

Phuz 07-27-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1236203)
The 717's will not arrive for nearly a year. The CRJ900's to follow. In the mean time we are pulling down the reach of the DCI system and thus, the Delta network.

Events of the last couple of weeks suggest the plan for New York needs a serious re-think due to ATC limitations.

Has there been an order for CR9s made public yet? I know we're all assuming that, just haven't heard it made official.

But yes the Delta network as a whole will see an immediate reduction in ASMs assuming the comair 50s are parked on 9/30. I didn't see anything about further capacity reductions this year in the Q2 reports however. Not sure how that plays out.

dalad 07-27-2012 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1236203)
The 717's will not arrive for nearly a year. The CRJ900's to follow. In the mean time we are pulling down the reach of the DCI system and thus, the Delta network.

Events of the last couple of weeks suggest the plan for New York needs a serious re-think due to ATC limitations.

especially last night, we blocked in at 150am.


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