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09-07-2012, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
223 < 153??
I'm guessing your degree isn't in math.
I'm guessing your degree isn't in math.
Hmm, what's the max number of 76-seat RJs the company could be authorized under the old PWA. Let me see. 255
What's the max number of 76-seat aircraft the company could be authorized under the new PWA. Let me see. 223
I'm guessing you didn't do well with reading comprehension.
09-07-2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
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Hmm, what's the max number of 76-seat RJs the company could be authorized under the old PWA. Let me see. 255
What's the max number of 76-seat aircraft the company could be authorized under the new PWA. Let me see. 223
I'm guessing you didn't do well with reading comprehension.
Hmm, what's the max number of 76-seat RJs the company could be authorized under the old PWA. Let me see. 255
What's the max number of 76-seat aircraft the company could be authorized under the new PWA. Let me see. 223
I'm guessing you didn't do well with reading comprehension.
The PWA now provides a segway to growing them without increasing the mainline fleet count above 767 AND without parking 1:1 70 seaters to get there.
But, yeah... you're right. 223 is less than 153, right?
09-07-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
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Hmm, what's the max number of 76-seat RJs the company could be authorized under the old PWA. Let me see. 255
What's the max number of 76-seat aircraft the company could be authorized under the new PWA. Let me see. 223
I'm guessing you didn't do well with reading comprehension.
Hmm, what's the max number of 76-seat RJs the company could be authorized under the old PWA. Let me see. 255
What's the max number of 76-seat aircraft the company could be authorized under the new PWA. Let me see. 223
I'm guessing you didn't do well with reading comprehension.
The 70 seaters are a big deal because... their big too.
This comes back around to the danger of going with the MBH : DCI ratio alone. Under the old contract to get to 223 76-seaters you'd have to grow mainline. Now you just meet a ratio, and if that ratio is too low, well then you don't have to grow mainline very much at all (if any) compared to the old contract's fleet size requirement.
You can't go it alone... with a ratio. Especially since the ramifications of changing a ratio is far more murky than changing a fleet size requirement.
09-07-2012, 12:42 PM
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Everyone i've spoken to seems to be really happy with their Serengeti sunglasses so I went to the Stopover store in MSP down by the lounge and they had the display of sunglasses. So I tried them on and all their frames seem to be quite small (i've got a big head). Anyone know if the store down in ATL by the lounge on A concourse has a Serengeti display with large frames? If now...any suggestions on a good place to go look at them in the NYC area?
Thanx.
Everyone i've spoken to seems to be really happy with their Serengeti sunglasses so I went to the Stopover store in MSP down by the lounge and they had the display of sunglasses. So I tried them on and all their frames seem to be quite small (i've got a big head). Anyone know if the store down in ATL by the lounge on A concourse has a Serengeti display with large frames? If now...any suggestions on a good place to go look at them in the NYC area?
Thanx.
09-07-2012, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
You have said it yourself that WE don't make the aircraft purchase decisions.
Absent a contract could the company have done exactly what it did? Yes.
Absent a contract could the company have done exactly what it did? Yes.
Maybe the answer is the most obvious. The one staring you right in the face with the company's SEC filing; "new pilot agreement critical to this effort."
09-07-2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You seem to think that 325 jets above 51 seats is no big deal and all that matters is the 76-seater. As if to say the 76 seater is as much a threat as a B1900, E-120 or CRJ-200?
The 70 seaters are a big deal because... their big.
The 70 seaters are a big deal because... their big.
09-07-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
But you said reduce the number of 76 seaters... We have 153 now and that is maxed out until mainline gets above 767 airplanes.
The PWA now provides a segway to growing them without increasing the mainline fleet count above 767 AND without parking 1:1 70 seaters to get there.
But, yeah... you're right. 223 is less than 153, right?
The PWA now provides a segway to growing them without increasing the mainline fleet count above 767 AND without parking 1:1 70 seaters to get there.
But, yeah... you're right. 223 is less than 153, right?
The end result of all of this is fewer seats at DCI, a larger percentage of Delta system block hours at mainline.
09-07-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
That's why I'm glad we limited the number of 70-seaters from unlimited, down to 102. BTW, the 76-seater is a big deal, as is the number of flights over 900sm, glad to see that we effectively reduced those also.
09-07-2012, 12:56 PM
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Man, this thread is stupid long and I don't want to go back and read forty - fifty pages of information that I don't need so forgive a question that may have already been asked...Does anyone know how long the application window will be open this time?
09-07-2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
70 seaters were NOT unlimited under the previous contract!!!!! Large RJs(that's 76 seat AND 70 seat aircraft) were LIMITED to 255. Off those 255, 153 were permitted to be 76 seaters. 70 seat RJs were NOT unlimited!!!
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