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Old 09-22-2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
So they are now calling 'economy comfort' a separate class, sounds like a marketing thing.

I've sat in those seats when deadheadding, they are the exact same coach seats that everyone behind you is sitting in, with no additional meal or drink service, same as coach. I guess if you have really long legs, you'd pay extra for that, but otherwise, I see little difference than all the other coach seats.

But then some people stand in a long line for a $5 cup of coffee too.
I heard its been doing quite well. Especially on the planes that didn't require a seat reduction. And even if it does, that's "reducing capacity" or whatever. Yeah I know.

People have been willing to pay for that product finally. It might have to do with the airline's pushback and marketing take back against the discount ticket clearing houses. Either way, UAL and JB started doing it a couple years ago and it flat out worked. Free extra revenue, the best kind of revenue, and more options for customers.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:31 PM
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I just read the "Weekly Update" on DNET, and as of right now, Delta is adequately staffed. No plans to hire until late 2013 for the 2014 schedule.
According to notes out of recent base meetings we may have a surplus of 320 F/Os due to decrease utilization and displacements to the 88.

Also comment that hiring will be driven by DC9s sticking around longer and that we don't need to hire soon due to increased ALVs in the new PWA.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:42 PM
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What about this???


Johnso29, don't let that SEC filing get in the way rhetoric and pseudo analysis. This is after all a forum.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Fantastic. Why is hiring always "next" year and why is the big bid always the bid after this coming one?

Same propaganda, different day.

And we keep eating it up.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
According to notes out of recent base meetings we may have a surplus of 320 F/Os due to decrease utilization and displacements to the 88.

Also comment that hiring will be driven by DC9s sticking around longer and that we don't need to hire soon due to increased ALVs in the new PWA.

B..b..b..b..but work rule give-ups were offset!!
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
According to notes out of recent base meetings we may have a surplus of 320 F/Os due to decrease utilization and displacements to the 88.

Also comment that hiring will be driven by DC9s sticking around longer and that we don't need to hire soon due to increased ALVs in the new PWA.
Funny how all the claims needing 1000 new hires, oops, 450, err I mean 200 have evaopated.

Anyone smart enough to pour pee out a boot could see that the PWA would push hiring out.

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Old 09-22-2012, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr View Post
Johnso29, don't let that SEC filing get in the way rhetoric and pseudo analysis. This is after all a forum.
I bet you especially like the part in the filing where they say they couldn't have done it without ALPA. I bet we see different meanings in that statement.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:10 PM
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I just jumpseated on an SWA flight last month and the first thing they said to me was that many of the junior SWA FO's were looking at bailing for Delta when it starts hiring.

My response is the same for our guys and theirs. Don't do it unless you are sure our company's plan will fail and there's is the best in the long term.

I just got my 5 year pin but there's no way I'm leaving for UAL or SWA or anybody else. Good luck to those who wish to start over...
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr View Post
Johnso29, don't let that SEC filing get in the way rhetoric and pseudo analysis. This is after all a forum.


Until those aircraft are online and the mainline fleet count matches, that is as much a "projection" as anything else.

You and others keep pulling out that SEC statement like it is a 100% guaranteed done-deal or a can't-possibly-change statement.

The deteriorating picture for hiring seems to be leading the other way.
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